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05 Feb 2010, 8:01 am

I often plan to have time alone and I really look forward to it and need it. But to other people it seems like I have a "free afternoon" with "no plans".

All week, since Monday morning, I have been looking forward to being on my own this afternoon (Friday). This morning my partner suddenly said: "I forgot to tell you, I'm going for a drink after work - can you pick up my daughter?" I said yes but I got very upset and angry and I know it sounds strange now but at the time I didn't even know why I was so angry. I had a mini-meltdown and stood still in the middle of the high street and he had to walk away from me to go to work.

I phoned him soon afterwards and said I'd changed my mind and no, I didn't want to pick up his daughter. My time alone is just as important as his chance to go for a drink. This was hard for me to say, but it was the right answer.

Something similar happened a few weeks ago when I had planned to be alone on a Sunday afternoon and he suddenly decided to go and visit his sister and he was upset when I would not go with him. I said, "I wish you had asked me in advance; I have plans now." He replied, "But your plan is to sit on your own and watch TV!" - as though that didn't count as a real plan and did not deserve any respect.

I think it is ingrained in our culture that if you have a plan that involves other people then that counts as a real "prior engagement" and is respected. But if your plan is to be alone then is counts as having no plan at all!

My partner is a kind person but he slips into this way of thinking sometimes because it is so ingrained. I do, too. Even though I know how important my time alone is, I find myself slipping into the habit of dismissing it because that is the "normal" way of thinking in our society.

I have thought of a way of dealing with this and, although I haven't tested it yet, I'd like to share it with you and see if any of you do anything similar or have any advice. My idea is to invent an imaginary friend called Imogen. It won't be a lie or pretending - I and my partner will both know that Imogen is not real. When I plan to spend time alone I will say that I have planned to spend it with Imogen. Then if my partner asks me to do anything or join in any spontaneous activities, I will say, "I have planned to spend that time with Imogen, so I will have to ask her and then get back to you on that one". Then, when I have a minute to contemplate, I will "ask Imogen" (i.e. consider to myself) whether it is OK to change the plan "we" had. Just like you would with a real friend - you would wait until it was convenient to call them and then call them and check that it is OK with them if you rearrange.

I like this idea because it might help to cut through the ingrained idea that plans to be alone are not real plans, and because it will stop me from making rash decisions and force me to go away and think about it before I say yes or no.



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05 Feb 2010, 8:44 am

I think this is a very clever plan! It is a shame that those of us that need more time alone have to resort to this kind of thing, but I am a practical sort of person and admire any solution which makes everyone feel ok. I am lucky that my husband has to spend regular times out of town (taking care of elderly relatives). I look forward to these times as mini-vacations when I can totally structure my activities as best fits me. I get much done and/or sometimes nothing at all (except resetting my brain). This is vital to my functioning. You need to do what works, and I think you are very creative.


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05 Feb 2010, 8:47 am

anomie wrote:
I often plan to have time alone and I really look forward to it and need it. But to other people it seems like I have a "free afternoon" with "no plans".


At the moment, planning time alone isn't a problem for me as I have it in abundance, I currently have the opposing problem to yourself :lol: . But I do understand where you're coming from.

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I think it is ingrained in our culture that if you have a plan that involves other people then that counts as a real "prior engagement" and is respected. But if your plan is to be alone then is counts as having no plan at all!


I know, this does annoy me. There are times when I want to be by myself too, but people don't seem to understand this do they? It's like 'how can you possibly call sitting in on your own and reading a book or studying a plan?' Those that have known me a bit longer have learned to just leave me to it, because if I want to see someone, I know where they are and, when I am feeling more sociable, they know where I am, so what's the problem?

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I have thought of a way of dealing with this and, although I haven't tested it yet, I'd like to share it with you and see if any of you do anything similar or have any advice. My idea is to invent an imaginary friend called Imogen. It won't be a lie or pretending - I and my partner will both know that Imogen is not real. When I plan to spend time alone I will say that I have planned to spend it with Imogen. Then if my partner asks me to do anything or join in any spontaneous activities, I will say, "I have planned to spend that time with Imogen, so I will have to ask her and then get back to you on that one". Then, when I have a minute to contemplate, I will "ask Imogen" (i.e. consider to myself) whether it is OK to change the plan "we" had. Just like you would with a real friend - you would wait until it was convenient to call them and then call them and check that it is OK with them if you rearrange.

I like this idea because it might help to cut through the ingrained idea that plans to be alone are not real plans, and because it will stop me from making rash decisions and force me to go away and think about it before I say yes or no.


I personally wouldn't do this, but if it works for you and your husband then great. But then I have a get-out clause in the form of my pet cat, I just say that I want to spend the day with her. People then understand that I want to be left alone.



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05 Feb 2010, 9:17 am

Thank you for the replies!

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I get much done and/or sometimes nothing at all (except resetting my brain). This is vital to my functioning.


Yes ... very occasionally I spend it doing things like housework or DIY but usually I just aimlessly surf the net or (my favourite of all) watch TV series that I've downloaded. I love getting to the end of an episode and knowing that the next one is there ... and the next ... and then I either run out of episodes or feel like facing the world again.

To the untrained eye this might look like doing nothing but it is just as you say - I am resetting my brain.

I spend two hours a day on the train now, four days a week, and that is good in a similiar way, but it doesn't replace it. It just keeps me going till I can have the real thing.



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05 Feb 2010, 9:41 am

I sometimes wonder what's the point of telling people I have AS, because they usually continue to behave as if I'd never told them, as your partner did. :?

I probably wouldn't invent a euphemism for needing space like you plan to, but don't let me stop you trying it - just that I doubt if it would work for me. If it's not a particularly close acquaintance, I'd probably just make up something that couldn't easily be disproved. With people closer to me, I'd be very loathe to deceive them, so I'd probably either cave in, or tell them straight that I was sorry but I needed some space. Especially in your case where the right to go and have a drink isn't exactly a life-or-death emergency. I think you did the right thing by (eventually) arguing your case.



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05 Feb 2010, 9:58 am

I think it's a very good idea-- it puts your need for alone time into a frame of reference that your partner can understand. Most people don't understand that need for time during which you don't have to worry about what people think or explain yourself. When there are people around, I'm always on edge. It's tiring, as is attempting to explain and justify why it's tiring.



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05 Feb 2010, 10:53 am

People tend to accuse me of sitting home doing nothing, while actually I'm just thinking a lot or reading and studying a lot of stuff...

Why do you have to get out of the house or be with someone in order for it to count as "doing something"?



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05 Feb 2010, 11:14 am

anomie wrote:

Something similar happened a few weeks ago when I had planned to be alone on a Sunday afternoon and he suddenly decided to go and visit his sister and he was upset when I would not go with him. I said, "I wish you had asked me in advance; I have plans now." He replied, "But your plan is to sit on your own and watch TV!" - as though that didn't count as a real plan and did not deserve any respect.


Argh....my boyfriend says something similar to this, but insert "computer" instead of "TV".

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I think it is ingrained in our culture that if you have a plan that involves other people then that counts as a real "prior engagement" and is respected. But if your plan is to be alone then is counts as having no plan at all!


It's sad but true. I don't understand why it's this way. What does it matter *what* a person is doing when they have plans....it's their plans....other people just need to deal with it. I know that sounds unfriendly, but that's how I see it. :?


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I have thought of a way of dealing with this and, although I haven't tested it yet, I'd like to share it with you and see if any of you do anything similar or have any advice. My idea is to invent an imaginary friend called Imogen. It won't be a lie or pretending - I and my partner will both know that Imogen is not real. When I plan to spend time alone I will say that I have planned to spend it with Imogen. Then if my partner asks me to do anything or join in any spontaneous activities, I will say, "I have planned to spend that time with Imogen, so I will have to ask her and then get back to you on that one". Then, when I have a minute to contemplate, I will "ask Imogen" (i.e. consider to myself) whether it is OK to change the plan "we" had. Just like you would with a real friend - you would wait until it was convenient to call them and then call them and check that it is OK with them if you rearrange.


You'll have to update on how your "Imogen" idea worked. It sounds very creative. :) Good luck!!



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05 Feb 2010, 11:55 am

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I sometimes wonder what's the point of telling people I have AS, because they usually continue to behave as if I'd never told them, as your partner did. :?


I am only just coming to terms with the fact that I seem to have AS, and am wondering whether to get a professional opinion. My boyfriend is helping me through this and making it possible for me to feel comforable enough to think seriously about it.

He's the only person I've ever been able to be myself with and bit by bit I'm allowing myself to be honest with us both and get clear about how different I really am from most people. My need to be alone a lot is just part of it. There's more, some that he is already familiar with and some that I will have to make him aware of.

This is a very emotional day for me actually because I looked at this list and saw that 42 out of the 45 traits apply to me very strongly and clearly. If I'd tried to write a summary of myself, I could not have done better than that list. I think I am probably right about having AS and I am a bit scared but also excited.

I'm sorry for derailing the thread



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05 Feb 2010, 11:58 am

Omerik wrote:
People tend to accuse me of sitting home doing nothing, while actually I'm just thinking a lot or reading and studying a lot of stuff...

Why do you have to get out of the house or be with someone in order for it to count as "doing something"?

Because those people don't think, so they can't imagine that you do. :lol:



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05 Feb 2010, 12:33 pm

It's like I've told my roommates: My right to have Nobody come over next Tuesday seems just as important as your right to have Somebody come over. But they don't view it that way.



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05 Feb 2010, 12:35 pm

It's like I've told my roommates: My right to have Nobody come over next Tuesday seems just as important as your right to have Somebody come over. But they don't view it that way.



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05 Feb 2010, 1:00 pm

So it is - hope your plan works out.

We live in the country. Work out of the home. Set aside a couple days a week as NO TRAVEL.

But our "work" does not count - no office. Our plams and needs are nothing.

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05 Feb 2010, 1:47 pm

I find that I'm the same way. I'm really starting to enjoy my alone time. I'm going to plan some alone time, for the first three months of March, except for going to my clubhouse on Thursday, Friday and Sunday afternoons.


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