Intelligence and Asperger Syndrome

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What part of intelligence are Aspies good at? (In a general way, without saying everybody is different).
Its my own idea about the different catego intelligence. I'm gonna tell it in my own words, so no definitions from other people, books or internet. Sorry for my weak english, my home languages are french and dutch.


1:Link x situation with another x situation. Seeing the bone structure of stuff without the flesh, and can link it with something with the similar bone structure but different flesh. (This can be verbal or visual)

2: Similar to '1', to see differences in a 'bone structure' even when it looks very similar,. (This can be verbal or visual)

3: To know how you think, why you gave that answer, to understand why you understand something, to know you know something even when its not sharp.

4: To see a logical order, don't need to explain.

5: To see or understand the hiërarchie of stuff. (Can be visual or verbal)

6: Similar to 3, to know when you're exactly 100% sure or not. I was thinking about this one, I'm a little too tired to explain, I'm gonna to later.

7: To eliminate possibilities. (I'm not sure on this one, it can fit in 1-2)


Btw this topic is not to explain about 'Intelligence as: x skills, can understand this or that, like verbal reasoning skills, etc..'.
But to go deeper, how thinking works. And to what you guys are good at.
I was thinking alot lately, and I think everybody can be very intelligent.
You just need to know how thinking works.

Something that is very hard to learn is creativity, what is creativity?
Finding unusual answers, making unusual stuff? And those usual stuff, does it needs to be practical in real life to be creative? Lets suppose I make a wooden door with chairs and planets on it, I'm creative? Most people will answer "no, thats just stupid". But people with this kind of reaction are just thinking practical or influenced (with influenced I mean, they saw alot of stuff in life, and they have an image about what is creative).

I was a little confused with your post! Your categories all seem focused around logic.

If you use Howard Gardner's Theory of Multiple Intelligence, then there is 9 types of intelligence:

Kinesthetic
Verbal
Visual-Spatial
Spiritual/Existentialist
Logical
Naturalistic
Interpersonal
Intrapersonal
Musical

You are going to find people have quite a varying degree of intelligences on this board. Generally, interpersonal and kinesthetic will be the weakest.

My strengths are focused on visual, logical and intrapersonal. My weakest is musical or kinesthetic. Supposedl;y most aspie's are quite good at associative thinking as well (making connections), but struggle with flexible and lateral thinking. I don't even know what that means

I'm sorry, my english is not very good, if you tell me this is logic, what other thinking process do you say exist? (If you eliminate memory, motor, visual spa) And are memory and visual spa not category's with thinking processes in it?

Okay, what do you think x intelligence category is? What thinking process do you need to be good at it? For example: Naturalistic intelligence, what is this? Is it to know much about animals, to respect nature and to love the nature? Can't you put this in Logic, Emotional thinking and memory skills?
I hope you can answer this.

I don't really want to talk about Intelligence category's, but more detailed how it works? And is it possible to find basic thinking process in everything? If you understand those process, can you understand everything?

Hi, Sorry, I could have put more effort in to that post.

Here is a list of thought processes from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_thought_processes

As you can see, this is a very large topic! If we were to talk in depth about all of these thought processes and intelligences we would be extremely busy. The model of Gardner's multiple intelligence is quite useful for teachers.

Hmm... Do you know anything about behaviorism? It is an older psychological belief that everything and everyone learns in a similar, natural way. It is kind of out-dated and generally not well-received.

I'm not too sure what you want! If you want to work on intelligence than you need to be a life-learning and focus on a wide variety of learning experiences.

I don't think it is possible to know everything. There is too much to know and you cannot experience enough perspectives in your life!

hth

I don't mean its possible to know everything. But to be capable to understand everything.
No, never heard of behaviorism. I will try to find information about it.

Why do you think x thinking process is not learnable?
The answer could be, not everybody can understand it even if they get all the time they want. Do you think intelligence is influenced by how fast you see, understand or do something? Lets say somebody get the most difficult question (where you don't need any past experience or learning or minimal) ever, the people who have a high iq and answered there very fast, but they can never get the right answer in this situation, is the guy who thinked slower but found it more intelligence then the guy who thinks fast, but could not do this one?

Thank you for the thinking process link btw.
I explored the link you gave, imo they overlap each other too much, like x process but its a component of x process.

Well. My Father (Non Aspie) has a 160 IQ, which basically means he is good with reason. I have a 135, but he says that if there was a test for creativity, that I would be a genius.
I am a visual person, and do alot of writing. I think Aspie intelligence is very much about being in ones mind all the time. I can create beautiful or thought provoking works of art, but I can barely hold a decent conversation.

I just talked about this today with my therapist. We both feel I (I can only speak from experience, right?) am a quick learner and like to link new information to old information. This way I build a system in which everything is stored in relation to the others. After realizing this I wanted to see how far I could take that, and I'm currently teaching myself Swedish, Latin, Hebrew and Icelandic by linking it in a larger language system. It's great fun!

Do you guys know what I mean when I say that / have experience with this?

Also, creativity... I like the topic of creative thinking. I don't think you can learn it, though. I do, however, strongly believe that opening up your eyes can speed up the process greatly.

I think I'm getting it... I have this subconscious running list of things that I need to do, and things I know.

When it gets interrupted, it takes me a moment to re-list everything and add the new information... kind of like "refreshing" (on internet browser) but in my mind when something new enters it.

I don't really think about a lot of the things I actually do, to be honest. But I think a LOT about what others may do and why they do it.

When I do look at myself very closely, I seem to think backwards... like, most recent thing that happened, all the way down to the first thing I can remember happening that day, to try to pinpoint exactly what I'm wanting to talk about. It can take hours sometimes for me to remember something that happened earlier!

While I realize I do a lot of strange things and all, and have noticed some of my weak points as far as social interaction, I've even figured out why they exist-or think I basically have it figured out as to why I cannot just "do things" to blend in... but, even with realizing it, I can't switch behavior... even if I understand the reason for something, I cannot simply just make myself do it... that part I'm really not sure why.

I'm a visual thinker. My weakness is auditory (or verbal) and thinking in symbols (math/music).
I once got so fed up one day I thought maybe I should write my own way of learning music. After all I can make my own code language but I can't understand music notes.

One part of my intelligence that seems to be uniquely me is that I can put myself in other peoples shoes and see things from their point of view. It makes me especially irritating to argue with, because I may agree with you but I can disagree with you at the same time.
I think it's because I used to be so black and white thinking, until people commented on it and my sister told to look outside the box. Well I'm not just looking outside the box but many boxes.
I don't know anyone else like that.

Hmm, I thought Aspies lacked "I can put myself in other peoples shoes and see things from their point of view"?

It's only happened in the last year. It's a part of my personality I like, though I do get myself in trouble with it.
It's doesn't mean I don't have AS. I just learnt to overcome being black and white thinking because of what people thought of me and I didn't want to be so close minded.
I don't toe walk either or flap my arms. Oh gee, maybe I'm not so autistic after all.

You can call it part of you're personality. But are you sure you get the right information with you're empathy (you get in trouble with it you say)?

I don't know how I learn..I guess I learn from listening to instructions, then I like someone to do an example for me, then I take it from there and go over and over things until I grasp it. I am not very smart, last time I took an IQ test I think it was 114. I am quite slow and I could be described as dumb, and that's embarrassing.

114 is not low. It's just a bit above average. You probably have a processing problem. You sound like a hands on learner. There's nothing wrong with that.

My interpersonal intelligence is impaired, surprise surprise.

I have good kinesthetic intelligence and am also a kinsethetic processor.

My intrapersonal intelligence is..........not consistent (Executive Function impairment I guess)

You can't rely on an IQ test to measure intelligence.