Creativity

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I see alot of Aspies on this forum say that they are creative.

Can Aspies be creative?
I remember my psy telling me that Aspies are not creative, they copy paste everything in their head', she also told 'Autists will never create something unique or revolutionair that can be called original or unique'.


Is she right?

In my opinion, that is incorrect... I'm definitely creative and i'm an aspie otherwise I don't think I would be able to have my own deviant art page which is based on my signature.

Also Alex the developer of this site also has aspergers and he is creative, otherwise Wrongplanet would pretty much not exist... and most doctors tend to think people with aspergers don't have a creativity and autistic's as low IQ's etc.

It would be so much easier if they could just look at their point of view and get proper ideas from it.

[edit] If I'm wrong in any way, please correct me.

Gary Numan has Asperger's. She is horribly wrong.

I try to be sceptic about Gary Numana and other 'Aspie Known People'.
He does not really look like an Aspie when I watch his interviews.

x Celeb can tell to x media what he wants.

Why do think he has Asperger? (Sorry for being so diffcult, but I have very bad memories with my Aspie dad who always told me 'facts' or stuff told by people as a 100% fact without telling me 100% why its that way he just keeps running a circle and finally he's again at the passage a writer once told)

I don't think I'm very creative - all my artwork is derivative of whatever show or film I'm into at a given time. Any time I create original characters, they are either heavily cribbed from people I know in real life, or they have combined elements of existing characters. Also, I couldn't write a story with a cohesive plotline to save my life.

I'm a very creative person that parts of my brain can't keep up with. I've thought of inventions and other ways of doing things that nobody has thought of. I wish that I could invent something or make a somewhat original movie or write a story that sells millions of copies. I still haven't come across a book that has my ideas in it, and I'm not saying anything more in here because my ideas may be stolen. >:|
I'm also artistic and can draw what I see in my mind with perfect detail.
Really you can say one sentence to me and I have a 300 page book or 2 1/2 hour movie in my head about whatever you said. If that is not creative then I don't know what is.

Craig Nicholl's from The Vines has AS. I can tell by his lack of eye contact, facial expression and his obsession with wearing green. While his band mates are wearing tight black jeans his are a bit loose.
I sometimes wonder how he'd do at a promo shoot.
He's also creative with his music. While not 100% original (really who is these days?) there is something special about The Vines' guitar riffs to me.

I taught myself to play five instruments at a professional level, and have earned a living doing it. I've written countless songs over the last 40 years. None of them are hits, and I am not famous for it because fear and poverty and other circumstances kept me from chasing that dream. I create and assemble radio programs, for which I have won awards. People with Asperger's not creative? Someone needs to ask your doctor what color the sky is in his or her world.

Is this creativity?

Imo its weird to tell people 'I'm very creative' or something like that.
Then you see creativity as some kind of fact'ness thing. (I hope you guys understand what I mean, I could not find the right words. I'm not very good at English, I'm 16 and I speak french at home and dutch at school.)

From Wikipedia:
Creativity is a mental and social process involving the discovery of new ideas or concepts, or new associations of the creative mind between existing ideas or concepts. Creativity is fueled by the process of either conscious or unconscious insight. An alternative conception of creativeness (based on its etymology) is that it is simply the act of making something new.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creativity

I'm led to believe that is. Are screenwriters or authors not creative? Musicians and songwriters not creative? I highly doubt it.

I know I'm creative. You don't have to agree but I know I am. I have been inventing characters through drawing and story writing for many years, and to me that is creative.

I'm a very creative person and it shows in the drawings that I did in the 90s and the 2000s. I think that the experts are way off the mark, when they say that we lack creativity. I think that they don't want for us to have creativity.

@pensieve: Screenwriters or authors are groups full of people, its not sure if they are all creative.
We know creativity is the ability to make '"new" things'. Thats a fact when we use the word 'creativity'. Creativity is subjective, it depends on the way we see it.

But the word creativity as we use it has some conditions before it goes to the subjective range.

Example:

An autistic kid makes a very realistic drawing of a clock. His family and friends say "Oh this kid is so creativity, hes a true artist!". Then the school teacher:"Thats not creative, ...;", The mother responds "In my eyes its creative". Boem, there the mother goes wrong. I won't explain why, I think you understand it.

The word better suited would be 'artistic'. Maybe if the clock had arms and a spear through it would it be creative.
Also, authors can work alone. Was anyone telling J.K Rowling what to write? Probably not the best example to use because she took a lot from Tolkien and latin.

Usually the most creative people had some kind of disorder. Andy Warhol and Ansel Adams had dyslexia. And many people thought to have a form of autism were brilliant and original thinkers. So I disagree that autistics cannot be creative. That's just one of the stereotypes like lacking empathy.

Bold: I don't understand what you mean with this?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you miss understood me or I miss understood you.
With authors as group of people I mean this:
Some authors are creative but that doesn't mean all Authors are creative.

Underline: When somebody says 'Usually the most creative people have some kind of disorder' or something like this, means somebody doesn't think outside of the box, but in one straight way.

Last edited by LoveMoney on 14 Feb 2010, 12:02 am, edited 1 time in total.

Oh, I interpreted that as they work together as a group.

Aspies usually lack empathy leaves alot less responses open then "Many great artists were shy people'.

But "shyness" can be "analyzed"/seen by everybody it doesnt need so many conditions to be fulfied then autist or aspie. Especially when we talk about somebody or groups from the past.

Using scientific reasoning, he/she is NOT right because I am creative and this there disproves his/her carefully thought-out generalization of .....never/can't/not.....

He or she actually sounds like an imbecile stuck in 'concrete operations'

I do hope this isn't the typical experience of those with AS who do have a current psy as it isn't particularly empowering