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05 Mar 2010, 7:40 pm

That doesn't overanalyze every possible thing?
Or not think every non-autistic is the enemy?
Who doesn't write complete essays on the act of socialization? It does nothing for me. I try to be social. In some ways I can, in other ways I can't. The 50 billion pages I've read on this forum about it are exhausting.

I at times find this forum frustrating. The way people go on and on about something. Just let it go. Enjoy your lives.


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05 Mar 2010, 7:45 pm

I don't have any issues with NT's as a matter of fact since I have friends that are NT mostly but it is sometimes very difficult and pretty exhausting but yet I still have fun, I just don't tell people that i'm autistic.

People deal with situations differently, some go on and on and on about it and others just sink it in until it frustrates them and so on but I suppose some people can't help it?

Being socializing for me is actually pretty hard for me but I always like to sometimes just challenge myself to things I don't like to do regularly.


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05 Mar 2010, 7:48 pm

You're less likely to change people on this forum. You're more likely to change your reading habits.



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05 Mar 2010, 7:54 pm

I get tired of the advocacy thing sometimes. Then I read yet another story about some autistic who gets beaten up or killed or locked in a room somewhere, and it's impossible to "just live my life".

But I've never thought of non-autistics as the enemy. I think they're more like a foreign culture that it's difficult to connect with. Eventually, I think, we'll learn to understand each other and co-exist.


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05 Mar 2010, 8:07 pm

pensieve wrote:
I at times find this forum frustrating. The way people go on and on about something. Just let it go. Enjoy your lives.
I find it frustrating that some people think that something that person does not find enjoyable is not enjoyable.



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05 Mar 2010, 8:08 pm

monsterland wrote:
You're less likely to change people on this forum. You're more likely to change your reading habits.

I don't want to change people on this forum, I just want to find people that are similar to me.


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05 Mar 2010, 8:18 pm

Callista wrote:
I get tired of the advocacy thing sometimes. Then I read yet another story about some autistic who gets beaten up or killed or locked in a room somewhere, and it's impossible to "just live my life".

I don't think I mentioned advocacy or autistics getting beaten up or killed. That does sadden me when it happens. I'm kind of an autism advocate myself, although I try to stay well away from the anti-cure debate.
I was just talking about the threads where people try and understand how NT's socialize. And it's all negative stuff, like 'speak your mind' doesn't really mean it. I couldn't care less. I think we take this all way too seriously.


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05 Mar 2010, 8:19 pm

pensieve wrote:
That doesn't overanalyze every possible thing?
Or not think every non-autistic is the enemy?
Who doesn't write complete essays on the act of socialization? It does nothing for me. I try to be social. In some ways I can, in other ways I can't. The 50 billion pages I've read on this forum about it are exhausting.

I at times find this forum frustrating. The way people go on and on about something. Just let it go. Enjoy your lives.



I seem to only fit on there. I do not think non autistics are my enemies.



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05 Mar 2010, 9:00 pm

I really wish I could just enjoy my life, and I try, but the honest truth is I have deep damage from my childhood and being unusual, and on top of it all the world is sh***y, and it takes time to repair and sometimes you have to talk to someone about it. A lot of homosexual people have similar problems or people who have gone through terrible circumstances.



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05 Mar 2010, 9:18 pm

^^Totally can relate to Shadwell.

pensieve wrote:
I was just talking about the threads where people try and understand how NT's socialize. And it's all negative stuff, like 'speak your mind' doesn't really mean it.


You must be in a fortunate situation in your life where your livelihood does not depend on trying to understand how NT's socialize. I am one of those who is not so fortunate, and have been trying for 46 years to figure it out. It's not ALL negative, for instance I've learned that smiling at your co-workers when you see them at the start of the day decreases the likelihood of bullying/harassment. Regardless, if you have any positive "stuff", please share.



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05 Mar 2010, 9:29 pm

MsTriste wrote:
^^Totally can relate to Shadwell.

pensieve wrote:
I was just talking about the threads where people try and understand how NT's socialize. And it's all negative stuff, like 'speak your mind' doesn't really mean it.


You must be in a fortunate situation in your life where your livelihood does not depend on trying to understand how NT's socialize. I am one of those who is not so fortunate, and have been trying for 46 years to figure it out. It's not ALL negative, for instance I've learned that smiling at your co-workers when you see them at the start of the day decreases the likelihood of bullying/harassment. Regardless, if you have any positive "stuff", please share.

You make an excellent point there, MsTriste. I can remember countless jobs that I lost, because I didn't take the time to figure out these maddening and elusive social patterns. Like smiling, for example. As an Aspie, I find it hard to force a smile, and often come across as grimacing, or unfriendly. So, in many cases it is very important to figure out how to socialize with the NTs, because more often than not, they are our bosses, or landlords, or even a cop who has the wrong idea about you.


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05 Mar 2010, 9:29 pm

pensieve wrote:
I at times find this forum frustrating. The way people go on and on about something. Just let it go. Enjoy your lives.


I thought the point of this forum was to give a platform for people to talk about AS tendencies (as well as other things). Some of us can't simply "enjoy our lives" because of the differences we go on about. If people can't unload here, what's the point?



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05 Mar 2010, 9:44 pm

MsTriste wrote:
^^Totally can relate to Shadwell.

pensieve wrote:
I was just talking about the threads where people try and understand how NT's socialize. And it's all negative stuff, like 'speak your mind' doesn't really mean it.


You must be in a fortunate situation in your life where your livelihood does not depend on trying to understand how NT's socialize. I am one of those who is not so fortunate, and have been trying for 46 years to figure it out. It's not ALL negative, for instance I've learned that smiling at your co-workers when you see them at the start of the day decreases the likelihood of bullying/harassment. Regardless, if you have any positive "stuff", please share.

My life has been anything but fortunate, but I'm not going to hold that against other people that are more social than me. I know where my strengths and weaknesses are socially. Those areas I am weak in I choose to avoid.


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05 Mar 2010, 9:55 pm

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pensieve wrote:
I at times find this forum frustrating. The way people go on and on about something. Just let it go. Enjoy your lives.


I thought the point of this forum was to give a platform for people to talk about AS tendencies (as well as other things). Some of us can't simply "enjoy our lives" because of the differences we go on about. If people can't unload here, what's the point?

Did I say they couldn't? No. People get so caught up in their differences that they become unhappy with themselves. I've been there many times, I've even had severe PMS which exacerbated my moods.
For some reason I'm not there anymore and it feels nice.

edit: I would actually rename this thread 'the chill pill thread.' I dunno, perhaps I am just blessed with being such a laid back person that I don't let things bother me. And my life hasn't been easy; low grades, lack of interest in people, careers failed, severe social anxiety, bullied throughout life, living with a christian fundamentalist that I can't argue with, PTSD when it comes to crossing roads (yes, really), no employment history, suicidal thoughts that time of month, having a hobby that brings anxiety/meltdowns (concerts/festivals) etc.
Anywho, this thread is now boring me.


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05 Mar 2010, 10:01 pm

Shadwell wrote:
I really wish I could just enjoy my life, and I try, but the honest truth is I have deep damage from my childhood and being unusual, and on top of it all the world is sh***y, and it takes time to repair and sometimes you have to talk to someone about it. A lot of homosexual people have similar problems or people who have gone through terrible circumstances.


I completely agree. It's sometimes not that easy to just enjoy your life when from your past experiences, you've been somewhat (or more than somewhat) mentally damaged, or when you are dealing with problems other than an ASD, such as depression in my case which makes it almost impossible to enjoy existing.

Anyway, I don't see NT's as the enemy and I don't write essays on socialization. To be honest I've seen very few people write essays on it here and for those who choose to complain and write long, repetitive threads that have been talked about more than a dozen times, it's their choice because they might not have discussed it yet even though most of the others have.

Free speech. It would be good to enjoy your life but doing so isn't an obligation.


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05 Mar 2010, 10:02 pm

People with Autism consider us (NTs) the enemy? Well ain't that a slap in the face.


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