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09 Mar 2010, 5:17 am

I have noticed that lot of aspies are mild. How come not many of them are moderate or severe?

This is what I have heard about AS. One of my aspie friends who is severe also notices there isn't many severe aspies and lot of them are mild. Even she feels she doesn't it in here because she is severe. Plus I remember doing a poll in the past about how bad is your AS and the majority voted mild. That's when I was told by one of my online friends lot of aspies are mild. This was back in 2007. Even aspies I would talk to online would say they are mild when I ask how bad theirs is. I can also remember someone here saying of course aspies are going to be mild, it's a forum of autism. Some people think there is no such thing as a mild aspie or a moderate aspie or a severe aspie. I guess some people don't like to rate conditions and doctors do. But I notice they seem to rate it differently based on what I have read here and at I2. I bet if I went to different doctors and had them rate my AS, I would probably get different results.



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09 Mar 2010, 5:47 am

I prefer to call it "run-of-the-mill" AS, rather than "severe". I'm guessing most are too absorbed in their interests, and if they do interact on the 'net, it'd be in relation to the same.



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09 Mar 2010, 5:54 am

it's a mild form of autism. But seriously, it's because most of the time they have 2 NT parents or 1 NT parent with 1 parent with aspie-like traits but are not aspie. I don't know whether mine is severe but I don't get invited to hang out with them outside school. I have trouble holding a conversation and even my eyes look glassy in photos. But then both my parents have aspie traits. (my dad may even be one, but a borderline case.) Your friend's parents may both have aspie traits or one of them is an aspie.



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09 Mar 2010, 5:57 am

it isnt as simple as that, i mean AS isnt somthing you can type like that.. for example some of my traits are more 'servere' than someone with severe AS but some are milder than most..

Id say its imposible to class severity of AS in just 3 types


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09 Mar 2010, 5:59 am

Parts of my AS is pretty bad such as my concrete thinking and I am too literal.



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09 Mar 2010, 6:14 am

League_Girl wrote:
Parts of my AS is pretty bad such as my concrete thinking and I am too literal.


my two bigest traits are my sensory issues and im far too obsessive


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09 Mar 2010, 6:23 am

Because AS is on the same spectrum as, and merges with, Neurotypical. At some point on that spectrum(a small rage, actually), it is impossible to be able to say if a person has AS or is NT, because they are "borderline AS", and the diagnosis could go either way. So, since we are not real far away from NT, logical will tell you that there are more of us milder aspies, than there are lower-functioning, futher down the spectrum.The more disabled you are, the rarer you will be, because statistically you are further away from the norm(NT).


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09 Mar 2010, 6:32 am

League_Girl wrote:
Even she feels she doesn't it in here because she is severe.

I feel the same way. I don't know if I'm severe or if I have other undiagnosed conditions like ADHD or a learning disorder, but I feel like I'm about 10 years old when I talk to some people here.


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09 Mar 2010, 6:37 am

I've never even been diagnosed, although I'm sure I probably would be if I ever get the courage to try to get tested. But for me, in some ways, especially socially, I am severe. In other ways I'm mild, & in some ways I'm moderate. It just depends on the person, I think.


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09 Mar 2010, 6:50 am

scorpileo wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Parts of my AS is pretty bad such as my concrete thinking and I am too literal.


my two bigest traits are my sensory issues and im far too obsessive



I've been told my obsessions are very strong but I don't agree. If they were, then wouldn't I have all this A League of Their Own stuff? Plus I would be talking about it all the time and never shut up and never let anyone else speak or let them talk about what they want to talk about. I would rate mine mild.



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09 Mar 2010, 6:57 am

I may be totally wrong on this, but isn't Asperger's basically Autism that's good enough to pass as normal 'til you look deep enough.

But you have to consider the fact, that Asperger's isn't generally a condition you'll see dx often. If there is a severe form of Asperger's most people would be dx Autism without looking closer. I believe that if we look closer at the symptoms that people actually have, almost every condition would follow the LF, Mild, HF format of autism, but because most people don't encounter Asperger's often, or don't dig deep enough, most severe Asperger's are probably dx Autism or if they have a another stronger disorder, then they would be dx by that other disorder, and their Asperger's traits would probably be considered a side effect of the other condition in most people's eyes.

I suspect that MANY people diagnosed with Social Anxiety are actually milder versions of several other disorders. Because those other disorders are milder than most people expect, the awkwardness and difficulty in social and career settings is simply blanked with Social Anxiety.



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09 Mar 2010, 7:09 am

While I may be able to stutter out a few words and do much better than some socially I have very poor self help skills. I could probably spend more time on obsessions if they didn't mentally drain me. Something ain't right in that brain of mine and it's not AS.


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09 Mar 2010, 7:10 am

I heard many say simply that AS was a MILD form of autism. Even some DIAGNOSED people here say they never thought they had autism, but something else. When I was a kid, Autism, at least as I ever saw it, was ALWAYS SEVERE! Maybe THAT is why HFA and AS are relatively new sets of criteria.

Heck, a lot of "moderate" or severe symptoms would violate the criteria for AS.

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(IV) There is no clinically significant general delay in language (E.G. single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years)

(V) There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood.

(VI) Criteria are not met for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia."



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09 Mar 2010, 7:25 am

My hearing loss violated the aspie criteria because I had a speech delay.



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09 Mar 2010, 7:53 am

I'm definitely bitter.


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09 Mar 2010, 8:30 am

My take is because the more severe your AS is, the greater the odds are of being Dxed as having regular Autism or anything that is considered more severe than AS.

AS, by nature, is a "milder" form of Autism.

Most people with AS (as AS wasn't even recognized in the US until 1994) are adults who grew up being "different" but weren't classified into any known disorder. They were forced to adapt to their condition, and with AS, as you learn to adapt, the symptoms that identify you as having AS become less noticable.

AS (in my view) is a double-edged sword. It's enough of a disorder to ruin your life but not enough of one to be obvious that you have a disorder. If you can learn to adapt and cope with your AS symptoms without counseling or therapy, then by definition, your AS is on the mild side. If your AS is symptomatic enough that you can't cope and adapt, odds are you'd been Dxed with something by a professional.