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alana
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19 Mar 2010, 2:55 pm

how do people feel about these, handle them? I am starting back to school hopefully this summer and I know I am going to be confronted with this again. I don't remember there being such a ridiculous focus on this when I was in high school and college (the first time). Now it's crazy how much they demand these be a part of the curriculum. I would rather drive bamboo shoots under my fingernails. I think they discriminate against people on the spectrum, in particular. It's kind of like asking a blind kid to do a paper on silent film or asking a deaf kid to rate an opera. I am not going to develop any new 'skills' this way (except maybe strategies for enduring torture in case I ever get captured and sent to an interment camp). How do you guys deal with these?



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19 Mar 2010, 3:05 pm

I don't handle them. I can't work on them. I'm better off working on my own.


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19 Mar 2010, 3:18 pm

I hate group works! Nobody wants to work with me, because I'm odd, insane and too strict. And me too, because if I tell sb to do sth, they will f**k it up. Like Trent Reznor said: Better do all yourself!

People like to use copy-paste and don't know about what they speak. Teachers don't care. It's really demotivating.

My friend doesn't like to make projects with them, so we usually do both. She's NT and we don't have many topics to talk, but she doesn't like people's gossips and intrigues... so we are sth-like-friends.


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19 Mar 2010, 3:32 pm

Valoyossa wrote:
if I tell sb to do sth, they will f**k it up.


precisely.


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People like to use copy-paste and don't know about what they speak. Teachers don't care. It's really demotivating.


Amen, this is a nightmare to me because I 'came up' pre-internet and i can't even believe what passes for schoolwork these days. When I am forced to endure group torture I always volunteer to do the reference sheet because no one EVER wants to source the paper properly and footnote using the proper guidelines and format and nothing ticks me off more than having points taken off our paper because of stupid sh*t like that



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19 Mar 2010, 3:37 pm

That's usually the best way. I always hated groupwork, and my best approach (classical aspie behaviour, come to think of it) was to sort out in the first place what I would be doing, get on with that, and leave the rest to everyone else. And they'd *still* get it wrong and annoy me.

I can delegate stuff at work, but I don't believe anyone else can really do a decent job of anything. Sadly, evidence suggests I am right!



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19 Mar 2010, 3:41 pm

I really fear group projects too, it's so random how it goes. I've had nightmarish ones. This semester I lucked out, one guy is really smart and the other one let's me call all the shots and goes to by us coffee. So it's alright. Luckily all the group assignments are simple pass/fail, and the grades depend on the written exams.

But yeah, I prefer not to have to deal with it. I'm gonna enjoy this semester and the fact that my co-groupers are pretty cool 8)



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19 Mar 2010, 3:47 pm

Thom_Fuleri wrote:
That's usually the best way. I always hated groupwork, and my best approach (classical aspie behaviour, come to think of it) was to sort out in the first place what I would be doing, get on with that, and leave the rest to everyone else. And they'd *still* get it wrong and annoy me.

I can delegate stuff at work, but I don't believe anyone else can really do a decent job of anything. Sadly, evidence suggests I am right!


Ya know what the sad part about that is? Management allows it to continue to happen. Absolutely frustrating.



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19 Mar 2010, 4:18 pm

I hate school projects anyway. Don't get me started with group projects.



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19 Mar 2010, 4:35 pm

I work on my own up to forty feet off the ground most of the time. Only a very small % of a % the most tenacious NT bothering types can reach me up there. It is bliss.



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19 Mar 2010, 4:55 pm

Once the leader says groups, I run for the hills. :lol:


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19 Mar 2010, 5:58 pm

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Once the leader says groups, I run for the hills. :lol:


are there strategies you have for getting out of them? I would love to hear suggestions for getting out of them completely without forfeiting the grade. I am old, they are not going to influence my development in anyway so I really resent them.



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19 Mar 2010, 6:20 pm

Groupwork is 50% of work and 50% of peoples' arguing, offences, complaining, fights and other waste of time and energie.

So I often say: I'd rather work alone. Time is pretty much the same. My silent peace is priceless!


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19 Mar 2010, 8:48 pm

I have to grit my teeth and get down to work. Always stuck with the people who don't have a clique to do groupwork. And groupwork makes up at least 20% of my overall grade, if not more.

I can't stand groupwork because discussions are often a waste of time and my groupmates never give any specific instructions. They just tell me the topic and expect me to do research on it although I don't have the hypothesis, which is required before I can start to do research. I usually feel left out during discussions because there are too many conversations going on and I can't handle so many conversations at once. Worst of all, about 20% of the groupwork marks come from the oral presentation, where you're graded on things like making eye contact and expressiveness and the pace of the presentation. I always get low marks in the oral presentation because I can't make eye contact or I'll forget everything I'm supposed to say, have a fairly monotonous voice and speak very fast.



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19 Mar 2010, 9:20 pm

I messed up group work so many times in University. I'm thankful there's not any more before graduation. I hated every moment of it. I'm just not cut out for group work at all. I don't think many of us are.

There was a time in the second year when I hadn't heard from the rest of the group, and the deadline was approaching, and I got so frustrated that I just did my own presentation alone and brought that in. But then it turned out that they had done something, andn there'd been miscommunication, and I ended up looking like a total as*hole for going off on my own (which people seem to hate).

Awkward social situations are my speciality. :lol:



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19 Mar 2010, 9:42 pm

alana wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Once the leader says groups, I run for the hills. :lol:


are there strategies you have for getting out of them? I would love to hear suggestions for getting out of them completely without forfeiting the grade. I am old, they are not going to influence my development in anyway so I really resent them.


I used to give my teachers handwritten notes, telling them that i can't work in groups.


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19 Mar 2010, 10:11 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
alana wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Once the leader says groups, I run for the hills. :lol:


are there strategies you have for getting out of them? I would love to hear suggestions for getting out of them completely without forfeiting the grade. I am old, they are not going to influence my development in anyway so I really resent them.


I used to give my teachers handwritten notes, telling them that i can't work in groups.


Ahh, if only I'd thought of that! I didn't know anything about my aspieness back during my group projects.