Does the world accept Aspies/Autistics?

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18 Apr 2010, 6:01 am

I was just wondering if anyone thinks that not enough is being to ensure that we maintain our rights as individuals who are different. I have been rejected from university 3 times, and the programs are not full, also I qualify for the program, and when I ask the admission crew why they keep rejecting me (they know I have Aspergers) they cant give me a good answer. Despite this, people who are 'normal' and qualify a bit less than me are getting accepted no problem. I was just wondering if this kind of 'discrimination' occurs to any other Aspies. Do all Aspies really feel like we are Black in America in the 1900s? Thanks for taking the time to respond, oh and by the way there were many more of these 'occurrences' within my short life.



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18 Apr 2010, 6:06 am

no one has ever treated me in an unfavorable way because of my differences.

if i can do it..they allow me to do it.
i can do it so i am allowed to do it.

i program for companies where the person in charge of employment realizes i am stark and un colorful because they know i can do what they want.



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18 Apr 2010, 6:40 am

No. Discrimination against Autism people is pervasive and happens a lot.



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18 Apr 2010, 7:21 am

EquiisSavant wrote:
No. Discrimination against Autism people is pervasive and happens a lot.


this is sad, but true


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18 Apr 2010, 7:56 am

No people do not accept Aspies and Autistics. Sme people may have their whole adult life and not experience aspiphobia and it depends on how you were perceived as a child on that. In the 1970s it was a lot worse and I was perceived as someone with a learning disability and put in that system. So I have been treated that way and people often make excuses for their actions I still experience aspiphobia now. Being in that system was very intellectually smothering. Thirty odd years later as far Asperger syndrome is concerned nothing has changed and nothing will here but somewhere else perhaps. If anyone thinks AS people are accepted in general then he or she has been watching too much Star Trek.:arrow:



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18 Apr 2010, 8:10 am

DW, does your college have an interview system? If so, they may have rejected you because you didn't pass that. Also, how do you know all the places are full?



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18 Apr 2010, 8:15 am

EquiisSavant wrote:
No. Discrimination against Autism people is pervasive and happens a lot.

i am accepted and people think i am ok.
that is as far as it goes though.
i think you are too negative and it is because of other things than your autism that you are not accepted.

people seem to like me but i can not like them back, but i quiescently accept them.
that is ok because we attain an equilibrium.
i guess that australia is a nice place to live and i would not accept people who do not accept me.



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18 Apr 2010, 9:16 am

No. That's why we must have stronger willpower than they do. We should put our hyperfocus and perserverance to good use. Fight fight fight until they are forced to give in. I'm proud to say I have an extremely strong willpower when I truly want to accomplish a task.



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18 Apr 2010, 9:31 am

timeisdead wrote:
No. That's why we must have stronger willpower than they do. We should put our hyperfocus and perserverance to good use. Fight fight fight until they are forced to give in. I'm proud to say I have an extremely strong willpower when I truly want to accomplish a task.

poppycock!



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18 Apr 2010, 9:32 am

I think we should all know the answer to this question...



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18 Apr 2010, 11:42 am

The world doesn't accept AS/Autism, because they want to cure us, and prevent any more of us, from coming into the world. Everybody has to be normal. Everybody has to fit in. I think that fitting in and being normal, are way overrated. That's why I am, the way that I am.


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18 Apr 2010, 12:07 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
The world doesn't accept AS/Autism, because they want to cure us, and prevent any more of us, from coming into the world. Everybody has to be normal. Everybody has to fit in. I think that fitting in and being normal, are way overrated. That's why I am, the way that I am.


^This. ITA.

Also, it doesn't matter if you are optomistic about this subject or not. Discrimination happens anyway. You just have to fight for yourself and keep trying despite it :) It is only by fighting for ourselves that we can one day hope to be really accepted. You cannot control how others act- you can only control your own actions. Being quiet and denying that there is discrimination because you are optimistic and a hardworker (having a "can do" attitude about it) dos not address the issue. It just means you are not accepting the victim label, which is great- however, denying there is discrimination at all is just false. IMO, one should be optimistic, not feel like a victim, AND strive to correct the wrong ideas re: Autism/AS that so many still have.


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18 Apr 2010, 12:27 pm

My experience has been that it does not matter whether anyone even knows whether or not you are Autistic. They will discriminate against you because your behavior is recognizably different than the norm. What I'm saying is, Non-Autistic people can smell Autism, and most will treat you like dirt because they can. With impunity. Its allowed. It's almost expected.

I have been discriminated against by the operators of a trade school who knew very well what my disability is, and my home state has for over a year UPHELD that discrimination and not only supported it, but continues to participate in the discrimination by allowing it. Every official or advocate for the disabled I've contacted has either passed the buck to someone else or ignored me entirely.

Point being: This is the same kind of bullying and ostracization I experienced before I knew what my problem was. Now, even with a disability label, and laws like the Americans With Disabilities Act in place supposedly to protect people like us from this sort of treatment, it continues unabated.

And that's the same attitude that leads directly to the notion that we should be 'cured' out of existence. People who are noticeably different are sh*t on humanity's shoe, to be scraped away with a grimace.



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18 Apr 2010, 12:53 pm

Willard wrote:
My experience has been that it does not matter whether anyone even knows whether or not you are Autistic. They will discriminate against you because your behavior is recognizably different than the norm. What I'm saying is, Non-Autistic people can smell Autism, and most will treat you like dirt because they can. With impunity. Its allowed. It's almost expected.

I have been discriminated against by the operators of a trade school who knew very well what my disability is, and my home state has for over a year UPHELD that discrimination and not only supported it, but continues to participate in the discrimination by allowing it. Every official or advocate for the disabled I've contacted has either passed the buck to someone else or ignored me entirely.

Point being: This is the same kind of bullying and ostracization I experienced before I knew what my problem was. Now, even with a disability label, and laws like the Americans With Disabilities Act in place supposedly to protect people like us from this sort of treatment, it continues unabated.

And that's the same attitude that leads directly to the notion that we should be 'cured' out of existence. People who are noticeably different are sh*t on humanity's shoe, to be scraped away with a grimace.


well then maybe we should just force the normals into a state of non-existence. /sarcasm


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18 Apr 2010, 1:17 pm

The world? The world accepts me totally and perfectly. There is an exact place it has where I belong and I am quite happy about it.

Humans? A lot of them treat disabled people like trash. Cognitively/mentally disabled people are at the bottom. And autistics share the bottom of the bottom with psych labeled people and people with MR, and sometimes also people with very very severe brain damage. Which one of is on the very bottom is always shifting with the situation, nobody can claim the absolute constant bottom. And keeping us on the bottom fighting amongst ourselves serves the actual oppressors very well.

We aren't like black people in the 1900s though. Only black people are. You can draw parallels but each kind of oppression has unique features, so it's important to be careful and also not to only bring up black people's oppression when it is for one's benefit to make an analogy.

Also there are places where neurological variance is more acceptable. Few and far between. And few accept ALL neurological variants. But such places do exist. A staff person I knew had uncles with MR in a Mexican village where they had jobs and families and were not even a little pathologized. Parts of my family have been similar for autism and related conditions. Not everywhere is alike.


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18 Apr 2010, 1:19 pm

It depends on what part of the world. :wink:

I've had experiences of being accepted or unaccepted.