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TheMachine1
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14 Jul 2006, 7:42 pm

I read how alot of you have problems with fluorescent lighting. By the
way many think the inventer Tesla had AS. Why I'm posting is I have in my
mind ideas to build a perfect world for aspies. I would like to hear from people
who think they have answers to the lighting problem.
Here are random thoughts to consider:
1) Most fluorescent are not "full" spectrum in that the output too much yellow/green
because it makes the bulb briter(eyes more semsitive to those colors).

2) Do you still have problems with full spectrum bulbs. If you have full
sprectrum bulbs I assume you know because they cost alot?

3) Some say the "hum" of the light is a problem. Is that just how the bulbs work or do certain power supplies solve that problem.

4) What about high pressure mercury lights? They are used in big building and
save more power but tend to be blue like.

5) Power savings is important.



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14 Jul 2006, 8:11 pm

Florescent light kills my eyes. Mostly for the fact that it pulsates and it's too bright.



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14 Jul 2006, 8:19 pm

phoenixjsu wrote:
Florescent light kills my eyes. Mostly for the fact that it pulsates and it's too bright.


Yeah I just read that they pulsate or flicker. Maybe an ideal voltage and
frequency of the AC could solve that. Being "too bright" maybe a result of
the over use of the green-yellow light. Its a cheap way to make bulbs briter.



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15 Jul 2006, 10:16 am

That flicker is hard to work around. I think it gives me migraines, and it reminds me of strobe lights, which I can't handle being around at all. Any bright light hurts my eyes too.



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15 Jul 2006, 1:49 pm

My work has flourescent lights and in combination with my computer monitor it gives me such horrible headaches/migraines that I have to get up every few minutes for a drink of water. I usually have to turn my chair around so that the flourescent lights are out of my line of sight. The only light I can handle is natural light and that's only dim natural light - midday sun bothers me as well.



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15 Jul 2006, 2:03 pm

Jennyji wrote:
My work has flourescent lights and in combination with my computer monitor it gives me such horrible headaches/migraines that I have to get up every few minutes for a drink of water. I usually have to turn my chair around so that the flourescent lights are out of my line of sight. The only light I can handle is natural light and that's only dim natural light - midday sun bothers me as well.


Okay that seem to suggest its not just the type of light but how bright it is. I seem
to vaguely remember having dreams/nightmares about bright summer time sun
light (the fear I would not beable to see in it). Even though when I was a wake I did not seem to have problems. Maybe a sunroof that blocks UV and IR and had
programable tinting or slats that could adjust light levels would be nice.



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15 Jul 2006, 5:36 pm

some fluroescent lights bother me, others I really like, even more so than incandescent lighting. Any light really if it glares in my face, or is simply too bright can be a problem. I like subdued, indirect light that's full spectrum. I don't even like some incandescant lighting because it is too red/yellowish.

Many of the newest fluroescent lights fit this bill. Most office lighting uses magnetic ballasts, and cheap bulbs. The result is a 60-cycle flicker, and very poor quality color rendition. Electronic ballasts however are beginning to become popular, and even some of the newest offices and commercial buildings use them. They turn on instantly and don't flicker. If good bulbs are used too, they will generate full spectrum light like sunlight.

I use those compact fluorescent lights around my house and really like them. The better ones put out quite some quite nice light. They almost always have electronic ballasts, and the phospors used are really good for delivering full-spectrum light that closely resembles sunlight. Look at the color temperature on the side of the bulb's package to tell if it's a good one. 2500 and 3000 kelvin bulbs are simlar to a slightly dimmed incandescant bulb. 4000 kelvin is like direct sunlight, 5000 is like an overcast day, and 6000 is a very bluish tinted light, sort of like moonlight. The nice thing about CFL's too is that they make lots more light for lots less power. I like the 9 watt models at 4000 kelvin, which make about as much light as a 40 watt incancescant bulb.



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15 Jul 2006, 5:51 pm

AV-geek wrote:
I use those compact fluorescent lights around my house and really like them. The better ones put out quite some quite nice light. They almost always have electronic ballasts, and the phospors used are really good for delivering full-spectrum light that closely resembles sunlight. Look at the color temperature on the side of the bulb's package to tell if it's a good one. 2500 and 3000 kelvin bulbs are simlar to a slightly dimmed incandescant bulb. 4000 kelvin is like direct sunlight, 5000 is like an overcast day, and 6000 is a very bluish tinted light, sort of like moonlight. The nice thing about CFL's too is that they make lots more light for lots less power. I like the 9 watt models at 4000 kelvin, which make about as much light as a 40 watt incancescant bulb.


I bought alot of CFL for my house to. They seem to not flicker like you say.
I'm not sure what the kelvin number of my bulbs are but I think they do not
put out enough red? light(the el cheapo ones I have). I love them because they
do not put out alot of waste heat. I'm running 3 air conditioner units here in
Texas to avoid melting.



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16 Jul 2006, 12:12 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
phoenixjsu wrote:
Florescent light kills my eyes. Mostly for the fact that it pulsates and it's too bright.


Yeah I just read that they pulsate or flicker. Maybe an ideal voltage and
frequency of the AC could solve that. Being "too bright" maybe a result of
the over use of the green-yellow light. Its a cheap way to make bulbs briter.


I just vote we take a hammer to all florescent light bulbs on Earth...



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16 Jul 2006, 3:18 pm

I don't care for flourescents at all. Even the color balanced flourescents produce a "fake" balanced light to me.

my favorite light is 3200k balanced tungsten. Maybe that's why I choose a career in television. Lighting is nothing tungsten. Although I dread the day when kino-flo's become mainstay.


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17 Jul 2006, 7:56 pm

I don't like fluorescent lights, but not because they flicker or hum. I have never even noticed that about them. I don't like them because they make a room feel cold and stark, especially a white-walled room, like my bedroom. Incandescent lighting exudes a much warmer and more inviting feel.



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03 Aug 2006, 9:29 am

I just bought some compact fluorescent bulbs at Walmart.

SunLight bulb
60 watt replacement 15 watt power use

(package says)
"Natural Spectrum light * provides soothing glare free light * enjoy natural daylight
indoors * natural daylight has an overall positive effect on healthh, mood and
apperance while reducing and eye strain " (oh that last line is how they wrote it
seems like a typo "and" in there or maybe a lawyers trick)

6500K get two bulbs for $8.44 USD
Seems slightly blue as AV-geek said but I like it so for. There is no flicker.

"Lights of America" model no 2215 s-2vp
made in China(where else would American lights be made?)



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03 Aug 2006, 10:29 am

"glare free" is a relative term. A bulb cannot really claim to be glare free, because glare is a factor upon good fixture design, not the bulb. as long as the bulb is not directly exposed to the onlooker it will be glare free.

6500K might be a little bit cool for me though



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03 Aug 2006, 10:42 am

The light of flourescents do not bother me unless they are flickering due to malfunction of the system or I look directly into them. The buzzing sound gets to me however.

I have compact flourescents in my house. In the rooms where they are covered, I have no problems (in fact, the light does not even show a diffenece once the covers are on.

OTH, in the bathroom where the lights are not covered, I cannot stand to look at them and on top of that, I can hear the buzzing unless I have the shower on.


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03 Aug 2006, 3:51 pm

I hate fluorescent lights as I can can see them flicker, I can also notice my computer monitor flicker at 60 hertz but not at 75 hertz.



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03 Aug 2006, 4:22 pm

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Florescent light kills my eyes. Mostly for the fact that it pulsates and it's too bright.


Same here. Plus it gives me a splitting headache if I am around florescent lighting too long. Feel like my skull has split open, and my temples start hurting.