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20 Jul 2010, 2:53 am

Hi Guys,

I'm new to this forum; so, I'd appreciate as detailed insight as I can get. Namely, I'd want some content that can improve my social skills.

For several years now, several friends think I have a very mild form of Asperger's Syndrome.
However, having seen a specialist, and my regular psychiatrist, they both think I don't show any symptoms.

I know that I am very analytical, and often like exact answers. Thus, it's different from many wishy-washy, feeling-oriented people where the scientific, or exact, answer doesn't even cross their minds.

For instance, I could define myself by giving my Myers-Briggs Personality Type (INTJ), and my Strong Interest Inventory (IES). However, I realize many people would say feeling oriented things like "I'm cute, smart, etc.".

I do also realize that, because of an introverted personality, I am more into my own thoughts than many people. Since social situations seem to be mediated by the feelings and customs of others more than anything else, perhaps I will develop some social maturity merely by paying more attention to how others are feeling.

Of course, I am reluctant to get a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome, as it would mean that I cannot experience something to the level that other normal people can.

Any thoughts on how to improve my social skills?

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Here are some more tangible questions, that may lead into discussions:

1. Have any other of your guys' therapists done harm to you?

Three therapist I've had (all of them female) seem like they have been two-faced, ineffective, and are in the wrong profession. For me, I could easily diagnose them as narcissistic or just merely incompetent at their jobs.

2. What is "normal"?

Considering the average American is overweight, 5'8" (for a male), makes $25,000 a year, etc., normal doesn't seem like a very admirable quality to strive for.

3. How do you guys forgive yourselves for mistakes in the past?

For me, the hardest thing is going out and making social mistakes. I feel guilty about them forever. I understand that we all do that sometimes. However, I was wondering if you knew of ways to accommodate it.

Thanks for the info.



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20 Jul 2010, 3:01 am

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20 Jul 2010, 3:11 am

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Of course, I am reluctant to get a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome, as it would mean that I cannot experience something to the level that other normal people can.
No, it would mean having a label for something that's already there. Getting a diagnosis changes absolutely nothing.

But you don't need one if you're correct in saying that you are simply an introvert with autistic traits, with social skills functional but on the low end. Diagnosis is for people who need professional help, accommodations at work or at school, etc. Not necessary for people who just want to do some self-improvement.

Practice helps, in comfortable environments.

I studied psychology, sociology, and anthropology to help myself learn (and also because I was interested, of course).

It's sooo important to realize that there is nothing wrong with being an introvert. Your style is probably to understand yourself very well, and to have small numbers of close friend. That's a valid interaction style. Don't force yourself to be a social butterfly if it's not your nature.

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1. Been done harm by therapists?
Yes. Several times. I've been misdiagnosed, overmedicated, and been called a rebellious child with the implication that I was causing the abuse that happened to me when I was a kid (I had a bastard of a stepfather who hadn't any business being around kids). On the other hand, I've had some really level-headed therapists who have been able to help me learn things that I would have taken much longer to learn without their help, and a couple of psychiatrists who didn't want to pile on the drugs and actually listened to my input.

2. What is "normal"?
The middle of the Bell curve. Statistically, within two standard deviations of average. But, since there are thousands of dimensions along which people can be measured, very few (if any) people are normal along all of them. Autistic people tend to be "abnormal" (outside those two standard deviations) along more dimensions than most people. The human race is defined by diversity; in fact, diversity and flexibility is our greatest strength. Autistics are more diverse than most humans; and that makes us useful--the statistical outliers who can think in ways and do things in ways that most people don't. Usually it's a disability; sometimes it's just the thing the human race needed.

3. How do you forgive yourself?
I'm human; I suck at some things and I don't think sometimes and I do lots of things that I regret later on. You can't sit around regretting them; you have to just fix whatever went wrong and go on. I've gotten used to embarrassing myself over the years. It only has to happen so often before you just figure it's going to happen often enough and you'd better learn to either ignore it or laugh at yourself or something, otherwise you'll sit and feel uselessly sorry for yourself. If you apologize and work to make things right after you mess up, and make a note of the mistake so you can take steps to stop it from happening again, there's really no reason to feel guilty about it. You can only be responsible for what you're actually capable of doing--not for what a theoretical perfect-you can do.


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20 Jul 2010, 3:37 am

Callista wrote:
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Of course, I am reluctant to get a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome, as it would mean that I cannot experience something to the level that other normal people can.
No, it would mean having a label for something that's already there. Getting a diagnosis changes absolutely nothing.


Beat me to it!

And I'll as well agree with her that my majour in Anthropology (Biological may it be) has helped me tremendously in understanding some social situations that otherwise allude me.

Well, you may or may not have AS. I have a good friend who i INTJ and, while she reacts in some of the same ways that you have listed, is NT in the end.

1. I can't say I don't put ANY merit in therapists, I just haven't had great experiences with them in the past. Mostly because they've done little for me. But, they've tried, so I'm not going to put any blame on them. All in all, I don't respect psychology as a science in most cases, and therapy is one of them. I have, though, had wonderful experiences with psychiatrists.

2. Normal is the standard, the average, the median. It's the majourity. It is not always the best, nor is it always the worst, it is merely what is deemed what is typical.

3. I don't do it well. I tend to stew for a long while until I allow for the fault to eventually fade away with me making up for it in some regard. Bad question for me to answer, as I don't exactly have a great answer for you.



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20 Jul 2010, 4:11 am

"A pupil asked a great teacher,

"How do I find wisdom?"

The teacher answered, "By good choices."

"And how do I make good choices?" asked the pupil.

"From experience" said the teacher.

"And how do I get experience?", asked the student,

"From bad choices", said the teacher."

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