Do you get weird impulses to enhance disruptive situations?

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07 Aug 2010, 6:25 am

Like, if you drop a mug, or have to smash some ice, to scream when it makes impact. Just to make it louder. XD
Anyone do those sorts of things?



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07 Aug 2010, 11:56 am

Is shouting Oh SH*T! when you drop a mug the same thing?

I have noticed that I have a compulsive tendency to say "Ouch!" anytime I touch or bump against anything unintentionally, even if it didn't hurt at all.



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07 Aug 2010, 12:04 pm

If I get angry enough I can get violent sometimes - this seems to be an example of making a bad situation worse as just shouting hasn't 'cut it' in terms of expressing my rage!

I slapped my sister in law across the face the other day as i'm so incensed by the fact she and my brother want to put my Father into a home and sell my parent's home out from under him ASAP.

Being an austistic person/person with AS, people just don't take me seriously enough so when words are failing to have any effect, what else is there but violence? Logically just what??



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07 Aug 2010, 12:11 pm

I find that last statement unfortunately correct.



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07 Aug 2010, 12:20 pm

Spazzergasm wrote:
I find that last statement unfortunately correct.


People who don't get angry and don't resport to violence on occasion seem to me to also be people who get listened to and respected sufficiently by others; hence their egos are not being constantly stamped on.

I get fed up of people saying people can always exercise self-control if they try hard enough - this just isn't true for all of us; it's intrinsic to the diagnosis! It's like telling a blind person they could see very well if only they tried looking harder!

Btw, off-topic, I'm very curious as to your ethnic origin Spazzergasm - are you Turkish?



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07 Aug 2010, 12:44 pm

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I get fed up of people saying people can always exercise self-control if they try hard enough - this just isn't true for all of us; it's intrinsic to the diagnosis! It's like telling a blind person they could see very well if only they tried looking harder!


You're wrong, aeon555, absolutely wrong. And I hope when you're arrested and sitting in jail for FAILING to control yourself, that you don't insult the rest of us who have learned restraint, by trying to use Autism as an excuse for your FAILURE to learn self-control.

A well-disciplined intellect does not resort to physical outbursts. Ever.



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07 Aug 2010, 12:48 pm

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I get fed up of people saying people can always exercise self-control if they try hard enough - this just isn't true for all of us; it's intrinsic to the diagnosis! It's like telling a blind person they could see very well if only they tried looking harder!


You're wrong, aeon555, absolutely wrong. And I hope when you're arrested and sitting in jail for FAILING to control yourself, that you don't insult the rest of us who have learned restraint, by trying to use Autism as an excuse for your FAILURE to learn self-control.

A well-disciplined intellect does not resort to physical outbursts. Ever.


Well we will have to agree to differ then. I think impulse control is outside of intellectual control - they are two different brain modules and in some people the impulse control module is faulty or malfunctions in certain situations.

And what else but the autism is to blame for having a malfunctioning brain??

You might as well dispense completely with the whole diagnosis of autism itself if you aren't going to take on board the varying difficulties it causes people.

I have in fact managed to exercise the self-restraint necessary to keep myself out of prison but this does not mean that certain situations aren't going to push me beyond my capabilities of self-control and that I won't have to deal with the consequences.



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07 Aug 2010, 1:30 pm

aeon555 wrote:
Btw, off-topic, I'm very curious as to your ethnic origin Spazzergasm - are you Turkish?


I'm half Turkish, half your regular American from different origins.



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07 Aug 2010, 1:46 pm

Willard wrote:
A well-disciplined intellect does not resort to physical outbursts. Ever.


Hello Bill,

I've never resorted to physical outbursts (except for a few fist fights at school, back in the Jurassic Period)

However I think I will modify you statement by removing the qualifier and taking it to heart:

A well-disciplined intellect does not resort to (any) outbursts. Ever.

This WILL be a learning process that will require real EFFORT by me but hopefully a very worthwhile and rewarding process.

Thanks :thumright:


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07 Aug 2010, 4:53 pm

Spazzergasm wrote:
aeon555 wrote:
Btw, off-topic, I'm very curious as to your ethnic origin Spazzergasm - are you Turkish?


I'm half Turkish, half your regular American from different origins.


So were you born in Turkey/have you lived there all your life?

I've been to Turkey once on holiday, to the resort of Olu Deniz and found it a very interesting place. I expected it to be like Greece but it was totally different; far more exotic.



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07 Aug 2010, 4:58 pm

Greece sucks.

I'm actually from Seattle (Kent to be very specific). I lived there until I was 10, then moved to Turkey. I'm moving back soon.

Turkey's way better to vacation in than Greece. :D



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07 Aug 2010, 5:12 pm

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Greece sucks.

I'm actually from Seattle (Kent to be very specific). I lived there until I was 10, then moved to Turkey. I'm moving back soon.

Turkey's way better to vacation in than Greece. :D


But I suspect Greece is a slightly better place to be arrested in than Turkey, given Turkey's human rights record



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07 Aug 2010, 6:01 pm

Maybe. I'm not really knowledgeable on the matter.



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07 Aug 2010, 6:07 pm

Spazzergasm wrote:
Maybe. I'm not really knowledgeable on the matter.


What??! You call yourself an aspie yet you have no knowledge of the fact Turkey has an appalling human rights record?? Haven't you ever heard of the film 'Midnight Express'??

I'm staggered at such a gap in your general knowledge!



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07 Aug 2010, 6:24 pm

1. I don't call myself an aspie. It's a big maybe. And how does being an aspie have anything to do with Turkey's human rights?

2. You really shouldn't address people directly in the manner you just did, it makes them feel personally attacked.

3. In that film, they exaggerated it, a lot.

4. Do you really think it's the same as it was in the 70s?

5. I haven't watched the f*****g movie. I do live in the country. I think the "gap" in my knowledge is substantially smaller than you perceive it to be.



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07 Aug 2010, 6:33 pm

Spazzergasm wrote:
1. I don't call myself an aspie. It's a big maybe. And how does being an aspie have anything to do with Turkey's human rights?

2. You really shouldn't address people directly in the manner you just did, it makes them feel personally attacked.

3. In that film, they exaggerated it, a lot.

4. Do you really think it's the same as it was in the 70s?

5. I haven't watched the f***ing movie. I do live in the country. I think the "gap" in my knowledge is substantially smaller than you perceive it to be.


Sorry if you thought I was being aggressive - it was meant to be said in a jokey, bantering tone.

Aspies are known for being direct.

I was implying that aspies are often general knowledge obsessives - we tend to like knowledge and information for it's own sake.

I know there was a certain amount of artistic licence used in the film but Turkey still has a bad human rights record currently; this is part of the reason they haven't been allowed to join the European Union yet.

Again, sorry if I offended you; I was only trying to be jokey in a friendly manner but did have a small doubt as I was posting that it might get misconstrued as my posts often are.