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28 Jun 2005, 6:45 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4630705.stm

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Girls with autism may not be identified because they do not show traditional signs of the disease, an expert warns.

Children with autistic spectrum disorders have poor social and communication skills.

Hyperactivity, and interests in technical hobbies have been seen as characteristics of the disorder.

But Christopher Gillberg, of the National Centre of Autism Studies, said girls were often passive and collected information on people, not things.



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28 Jun 2005, 6:54 pm

I saw that article too I posted it to the 'Submit News!' earlier. Does anybody know what happens to things submitted via 'Submit News!'?



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28 Jun 2005, 7:08 pm

Psychlone wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4630705.stm

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Girls with autism may not be identified because they do not show traditional signs of the disease, an expert warns...



Aaaacccckkkk!! !! !! !! !! ! Another ignorant "expert"! !! !! !! !! !



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29 Jun 2005, 12:11 am

I wouldn't mind it so much if it was just random uninformed people saying such things, but because it comes from self-proclaimed 'experts' it becomes very frustrating.



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29 Jun 2005, 12:12 am

Oh wicked. I have a disease.

I wonder if it can be sexually transmitted.

I'm not going to bother reading the article.



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29 Jun 2005, 12:49 am

When they say disease, are they referring to being autistic, or being female?



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29 Jun 2005, 2:51 am

If there are more Autistic girls than previously thought, then that means my chances of finding a date are better than previously thought as well. :D



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29 Jun 2005, 3:31 am

As far as I'm concerned, Autism is a condition not a disease. It can't be cured, only managed.

Just before I got an official diagnosis of Aspergers, I had a lot of trouble in my workplace and was in e-mail contact with a union delegate in another office. I told him of my suspicions that I had Aspergers and described the symptoms.

He told me that had I been a male, he would have agreed that I had Aspergers but that "females don't get it". I suspect some therapists I saw took the same view. :(

I hope there is more enlightenment in the community soon because women and girls face this barrier in getting a diagnosis because the manifestations of the condition are somewhat different than in males.


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29 Jun 2005, 3:44 am

Is this a world-wide phenominom or is it just British experts who are so condecending. Every time I read articles about autistism, the way they describe us is a spectrum between lab specimen and space alien. They may subconciously believe autistic people are a disease and that's why they refer to it as such. Lord knows we're treated like pathogens by others most of our lives.



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29 Jun 2005, 4:22 am

nirrti wrote:
Every time I read articles about autistism, the way they describe us is a spectrum between lab specimen and space alien.

Sometimes being described as a space alien doesn't sound too far from the truth. :lol:



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29 Jun 2005, 5:00 am

Regardless, there's still more males with it than females. Even underdiagnosis won't make up the current difference of 4:1



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29 Jun 2005, 6:06 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Oh wicked. I have a disease.

I wonder if it can be sexually transmitted.

I'm not going to bother reading the article.


Yes. It's like Life. Thats a sexually transmitted disease.....

Sanity wrote:
When they say disease, are they referring to being autistic, or being female?


I don't know. Either way, boy are they in trouble if I ever meet them..... I can't stand bigots/sexists, and do exactly the same to them as I do to people who claim AS/Autism is a disease. Now, where did I leave the spatula.....

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Is this a world-wide phenominom or is it just British experts who are so condecending. Every time I read articles about autistism, the way they describe us is a spectrum between lab specimen and space alien. They may subconciously believe autistic people are a disease and that's why they refer to it as such. Lord knows we're treated like pathogens by others most of our lives.


No, its world wide. Anyway, not all British Experts say that......

Believe me. I know. I could be counted as an Expert, I know that much on AS now.


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29 Jun 2005, 8:57 am

androidbeing wrote:
I saw that article too I posted it to the 'Submit News!' earlier. Does anybody know what happens to things submitted via 'Submit News!'?


I beleive it goes into a queue that Alex or Mashi review. They then add it to the board if it news and of interest to the board's membership.

I noticed they have 185 articles submitted and waiting for review. I can see where it would be difficult to keep on top of this.

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29 Jun 2005, 11:15 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Oh wicked. I have a disease.

I wonder if it can be sexually transmitted.

I'm not going to bother reading the article.


Well, in the context of a world where your only intrinsic worth is your social skills and economic output I'd have to agree with em. When we don't agree with that kind of logic we're thinking from an angle that, in the cold arean-to-impure hierarchy of society, just doesn't exist let alone hold any weight. This is one of those reasons why I find it almost impossible not to beat the hell out myself over every inadequacy or slip-up caused by my AS and why when people wanna tell me I'm doing great for someone with AS (not in so many words but seeming way more impressed than they should be as if implying that) that I feel like giving em the finger or just walking out of the room.


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29 Jun 2005, 2:20 pm

BlackLiger wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
Oh wicked. I have a disease.

I wonder if it can be sexually transmitted.

I'm not going to bother reading the article.


Yes. It's like Life. Thats a sexually transmitted disease.....

That's one way you could look at it! :lol:



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29 Jun 2005, 7:18 pm

I can't believe an editor didn't catch that they were referring to a neurological condition as a disease.

Well, unless you consider stuff like ADHD a disease too.

But as for the article, I thought it was really interesting.

And, looking at the symptoms they list in the article, it appears it is of more relevance to the AS end of the spectrum, given how the descriptions of symptoms, manifested in females, are described more as personality traits (i.e. shyness) than telltale symptoms of a neurological disorder.


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