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27 Sep 2010, 9:55 pm

Ok I tend to bite on my index finger on my right hand. I make a fist and knaw on the knuckle part. This leads to at times numbness from the pinky finger into part way of the ring finger (So the whole pink finger half way into the ring finger and the whole side of the pinky finger.) I noticed the other day I had this issue and I hadn't been chewing on my fingers. I don't draw blood but I'm curious could knawing/chewing hurt a nerve which can cause numbing on the pink finger/half of the ring finger? Is this an issue to bring up with the doctor or do I watch to much HOUSE? LOL! The latest episode was basic cold symptoms from a year ago (which the girl thought of as nothing compared to her brother who was in a wheelchair and had a short life expectancy due to a disease. Well those "cold" symptoms led to a heart issue and further lung issues and ALMOST dieing if it wasn't for the disabled brother donating half his lung) So those "Cold" symptoms something one might see as "no big deal" in this case lead to her death bed!! !!



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27 Sep 2010, 10:00 pm

That would be classified as a self-injurious stim, and yes, those can be dangerous a lot of the time.



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27 Sep 2010, 10:05 pm

It is an issue.


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27 Sep 2010, 10:24 pm

zeldapsychology wrote:
This leads to at times numbness from the pinky finger into part way of the ring finger (So the whole pink finger half way into the ring finger and the whole side of the pinky finger.)


I lost feeling in the same part of the hand, but I have not had that stim since I was a kid. I was told It is related to nerve damage, one bunch of nerves services the pinky and half the ring finger (I still find that weird).

My understanding was that the nerve bunch handling the pinky and half the ring finger is separate from the bunch servicing the other half of the ring finger and index finger. So chewing the index finger should not have this effect, and the fact that it effects both fingers means it has to be higher up on the arm.

For mine, I was told that the damage was likely due to resting my inner forearm, wrist or elbow on sharp edges for too long. It does get worse over time, so its good to try and correct the behaviour if you can. My brother got surgery for it but said that it did not really help much.


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27 Sep 2010, 10:34 pm

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zeldapsychology wrote:
This leads to at times numbness from the pinky finger into part way of the ring finger (So the whole pink finger half way into the ring finger and the whole side of the pinky finger.)


I lost feeling in the same part of the hand, but I have not had that stim since I was a kid. I was told It is related to nerve damage, one bunch of nerves services the pinky and half the ring finger (I still find that weird).

My understanding was that the nerve bunch handling the pinky and half the ring finger is separate from the bunch servicing the other half of the ring finger and index finger. So chewing the index finger should not have this effect, and the fact that it effects both fingers means it has to be higher up on the arm.

For mine, I was told that the damage was likely due to resting my inner forearm, wrist or elbow on sharp edges for too long. It does get worse over time, so its good to try and correct the behaviour if you can. My brother got surgery for it but said that it did not really help much.


I rest my wrist on the end of my desk while the hand itself holds the Mouse (while on my computer.) but I only get the numbness I mention when I am chewing my index finger (the knuckle area) I'll bring it up with my doctor (I have an appointment at the end of October) to get better clearification on the nerves of the hand. Thanks though. It's sad it's a problem. I do it out of bordem. I can try to toss a small ball as usual it's either Knuckle chewing,eyebrow pulling,or tossing a small ball (1 of the 3 are my stims it changes) Lately I've been trying NOT to have eyebrow pulling since mom dad says it makes me look mentally unstable/weird. I only considered "chewing" a problem when I had this problem WITHOUT any chewing. I'll consult my doctor to get her professional opinion. Thanks for the insight.



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27 Sep 2010, 11:04 pm

zeldapsychology wrote:
I'll consult my doctor to get her professional opinion. Thanks for the insight.


Yes, I should not have worded my post the way I did. I am not a doctor, this is second hand partial knowledge only.

I still find it fascinating that they divide this way:
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27 Sep 2010, 11:05 pm

have you ever tried meditation balls??? They are a really cool stim toy that is very relaxing, and if you do it right, the bells inside the balls start making very peaceful music. They are believed by the ancient asians to promote longjevity and physical healthiness. If you dont know what they are, they are metal or jade balls (2) and you turn them around and around in the palm of your hand. You have to get the right size for your hand, usually come in 3 sizes, small, med, and large. They usually have small balls inside of them that make music when turned fast enough. It makes a whirling jingle sound. Both the sound and the motion on the hands is very relaxing. That would be a really good replacement for biting your finger or pulling your eyebrows so you can replace a self injurious stim with a self-healing one. I am also prone to self injurious behavior, but usually not as a stim, only during a major meltdown.
But as far as the nerve thing goes, go ask your doctor about that...I think all the fingers are connected together as far as nerves go. No you wont die from it, but it can effect your physical functioning if you injure a nerve in your hand, expecially if you are right handed.
I broke my right hand once and I am very right handed...I was very disabled for about 6 weeks. I cant do squat with my left hand and I was in college when I did that. If you have to know I broke my hand punching an inflatable bed that I thought was fully inflated when it was not, my hand it the concrete floor below. Why did I do that? because my art teacher was evil and he loved to test on trivial crap and I studied for what was important...or at least I thought so. Anyway, sorry about the rant


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27 Sep 2010, 11:25 pm

Thanks for the hand diagram that makes a lot of since. I do have some meditation balls metal but they are the size of my palm itself. Plus they stink. I'm not sure why perhaps I'll consider those. :-) I never though of them being a health tool (I am learning Health&Wellness in college so that's an interesting aspect perhaps I can pursue further for a project in class. ThAnKs



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28 Sep 2010, 12:11 am

your welcome...they are not supposed to smell though...if they are metal you may want to try soaking them in vinager. Better yet, ditch them and get the right size that dont smell. You can also buy jade ones which are really neat. But you really need ones that two can fit in the palm of your hand.

Yes, it is believed that there are energy points on your hands and the balls, if the right size, hit all 5 points on your hand and massages them which create good health. I cant tell you if this is true or not, but I do know that if done right, it is a very relaxing experience and can put you in a mild meditative state. And there is alot of evidence that points to the health benefits of meditation.


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28 Sep 2010, 4:36 am

You don't watch too much House. It's an issue that should be taken up with two different doctors for two different and very important reasons:

(1) The stim itself is self-harmful. Believe you me. I have this stim myself and if you are only starting, try to stop now, because the damage can be permanent. Do anything else (except smoking, duh, like that's not harmful) to occupy your hands and mouth. You might need a doctor's help for this because, (obviously since I've been doing it for 15 plus years and can't stop), it's a hard stim break.

(2) No numbness in any part of your body should be ignored. There are a variety of reasons why you might be experiencing a lack of sensation, some more serious than others. Since the reason could be either related or unrelated to the stim, and since, yes, peripheral nerve damage can be permanent, I suggest you see a doctor. At least you can rule out more serious conditions that might be causing the numbness.



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28 Sep 2010, 7:24 am

You could permanently damage your fingers' structure and or nerves. My mom works with a kid who bit his fingers to the point where they are now deformed :(.


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28 Sep 2010, 9:15 am

On the lighter side, when someone asks if you eat something with your fingers you can reply that you eat your fingers separately.

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28 Sep 2010, 11:57 am

zeldapsychology wrote:
Thanks for the hand diagram that makes a lot of since. I do have some meditation balls metal but they are the size of my palm itself. Plus they stink. I'm not sure why perhaps I'll consider those. :-) I never though of them being a health tool (I am learning Health&Wellness in college so that's an interesting aspect perhaps I can pursue further for a project in class. ThAnKs


Ill bet they are the brass meditation balls. Brass can stink. I remember back in High School a male friend of mine sometimes smelled awful at lunch time, and one time I quietly told him because one of our less polite friends was talking so badly about him. He told me that it was because he hadn't washed his hands yet. He played tuba in band right before lunch period.



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28 Sep 2010, 12:19 pm

Perhaps they are brass I never thought of that either. :-) Hopefully the numbness is just my stimming and nothing else. I googled it and the most I found (of what little I looked into) mention a pinched nerve and what you guys said the chewing can damage the nerves in my hand. I never thought of it as such an issue before. I'd feel weird though bringing this up with my doctor since it's MY doing (No chewing on hand no numbness problem solved) So I didn't see it as much of an issue. Thanks.