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30 Sep 2010, 2:37 pm
30 Sep 2010, 3:31 pm
30 Sep 2010, 4:06 pm
01 Oct 2010, 2:26 pm
Hm... does this seem similar?
anbuend wrote:
Starting point for processing language.
I will have to explain this a bit. Most people start at or near the top, which is where language makes automatic sense to them. I am not talking about auditory or visual processing but rather the processing itself. I will explain roughly what 1-10 would mean for this. I've skipped some numbers, think of them as spaces in between the other things. I'm adapting this from something I wrote specifically about reading, so some parts of it may be stretched a little far to make them appropriate for sound:
10. Words automatically make sense to me.
9. I hear coherent word-like sounds/see letters I can sound out, but it might as well be a foreign language because it makes no sense to me.
8. (If reading) I can make out the letters as familiar letters but I can't sound them out.
7. When I see the words I am conscious of the letters as symbols but unable to recognize them as letters or put meaning to them.
5. I see/hear separate letters/sounds (without noticing they are word-pieces) but cannot perceive them as symbols.
4. I see an overall black pattern/hear an overall pattern of sounds but cannot see/hear the separate letters/sounds. I can see them/hear them but there's nothing special about them other than that I can notice them.
2. I perceive the entire world, in every sensory system, as simply patterns of color, shape, and visual texture, of tone, pitch, timbre, of texture, warmth, pliability, shape, etc. What Donna Williams might call "pattern form and feel". I don't even notice the text/voice.
1. Not even sensory impressions make much dent in conscious awareness. This isn't as empty as it might sound.
Here's a visual representation of these:
(The bottom part is both 1 and 2)
I'm aware this isn't the only way to divide this up and maybe not the best way. Such is the process of artificial rating systems.
I will have to explain this a bit. Most people start at or near the top, which is where language makes automatic sense to them. I am not talking about auditory or visual processing but rather the processing itself. I will explain roughly what 1-10 would mean for this. I've skipped some numbers, think of them as spaces in between the other things. I'm adapting this from something I wrote specifically about reading, so some parts of it may be stretched a little far to make them appropriate for sound:
10. Words automatically make sense to me.
9. I hear coherent word-like sounds/see letters I can sound out, but it might as well be a foreign language because it makes no sense to me.
8. (If reading) I can make out the letters as familiar letters but I can't sound them out.
7. When I see the words I am conscious of the letters as symbols but unable to recognize them as letters or put meaning to them.
5. I see/hear separate letters/sounds (without noticing they are word-pieces) but cannot perceive them as symbols.
4. I see an overall black pattern/hear an overall pattern of sounds but cannot see/hear the separate letters/sounds. I can see them/hear them but there's nothing special about them other than that I can notice them.
2. I perceive the entire world, in every sensory system, as simply patterns of color, shape, and visual texture, of tone, pitch, timbre, of texture, warmth, pliability, shape, etc. What Donna Williams might call "pattern form and feel". I don't even notice the text/voice.
1. Not even sensory impressions make much dent in conscious awareness. This isn't as empty as it might sound.
Here's a visual representation of these:
(The bottom part is both 1 and 2)
I'm aware this isn't the only way to divide this up and maybe not the best way. Such is the process of artificial rating systems.
01 Oct 2010, 3:20 pm
01 Oct 2010, 4:40 pm
Bluefins wrote:
Hm... does this seem similar?
anbuend wrote:
Starting point for processing language.
I will have to explain this a bit. Most people start at or near the top, which is where language makes automatic sense to them. I am not talking about auditory or visual processing but rather the processing itself. I will explain roughly what 1-10 would mean for this. I've skipped some numbers, think of them as spaces in between the other things. I'm adapting this from something I wrote specifically about reading, so some parts of it may be stretched a little far to make them appropriate for sound:
10. Words automatically make sense to me.
9. I hear coherent word-like sounds/see letters I can sound out, but it might as well be a foreign language because it makes no sense to me.
8. (If reading) I can make out the letters as familiar letters but I can't sound them out.
7. When I see the words I am conscious of the letters as symbols but unable to recognize them as letters or put meaning to them.
5. I see/hear separate letters/sounds (without noticing they are word-pieces) but cannot perceive them as symbols.
4. I see an overall black pattern/hear an overall pattern of sounds but cannot see/hear the separate letters/sounds. I can see them/hear them but there's nothing special about them other than that I can notice them.
2. I perceive the entire world, in every sensory system, as simply patterns of color, shape, and visual texture, of tone, pitch, timbre, of texture, warmth, pliability, shape, etc. What Donna Williams might call "pattern form and feel". I don't even notice the text/voice.
1. Not even sensory impressions make much dent in conscious awareness. This isn't as empty as it might sound.
Here's a visual representation of these:
(The bottom part is both 1 and 2)
I'm aware this isn't the only way to divide this up and maybe not the best way. Such is the process of artificial rating systems.
I will have to explain this a bit. Most people start at or near the top, which is where language makes automatic sense to them. I am not talking about auditory or visual processing but rather the processing itself. I will explain roughly what 1-10 would mean for this. I've skipped some numbers, think of them as spaces in between the other things. I'm adapting this from something I wrote specifically about reading, so some parts of it may be stretched a little far to make them appropriate for sound:
10. Words automatically make sense to me.
9. I hear coherent word-like sounds/see letters I can sound out, but it might as well be a foreign language because it makes no sense to me.
8. (If reading) I can make out the letters as familiar letters but I can't sound them out.
7. When I see the words I am conscious of the letters as symbols but unable to recognize them as letters or put meaning to them.
5. I see/hear separate letters/sounds (without noticing they are word-pieces) but cannot perceive them as symbols.
4. I see an overall black pattern/hear an overall pattern of sounds but cannot see/hear the separate letters/sounds. I can see them/hear them but there's nothing special about them other than that I can notice them.
2. I perceive the entire world, in every sensory system, as simply patterns of color, shape, and visual texture, of tone, pitch, timbre, of texture, warmth, pliability, shape, etc. What Donna Williams might call "pattern form and feel". I don't even notice the text/voice.
1. Not even sensory impressions make much dent in conscious awareness. This isn't as empty as it might sound.
Here's a visual representation of these:
(The bottom part is both 1 and 2)
I'm aware this isn't the only way to divide this up and maybe not the best way. Such is the process of artificial rating systems.
Now how interesting is this!! !!
I thought everybody's brain would do this, Autistic or NT.
I just always connected it with "zoning" out of a conversation or your immediate surroundings and retreating in your own inner world, which then requires more focus and everything else therefore blurs.
i am bilingual and when i first came to the UK i started to dream in english, but my colloquial vocabulary was not established enough yet and i frequently woke up frustrated knowing the flow of my dream was interrupted due to my incapability of expressing myself adequately.
also, i sometimes unintentionally get stuck on words in articles and "zoom" in on the word and how weird it sounds and why on earth this very object was given this term. i repeat the word over and over again and ponder over it until it becomes completely meaningless and confusing, if it pops up further on in the text or even days later the same circle sets in again, arrrgggh.
02 Oct 2010, 4:31 pm
Willard wrote:
cnidocyte wrote:
my brain doesn't automatically translate English into my own mental language
I'm puzzled by this statement. English is my 'mental language'.
Well, that and pictures.
I'm guessing you talk to people every day. Since I became more solitary I stopped talking inside my head so nowadays I just think with a combination of the 5 senses + emotions. It can get very symbolic and lots of my thoughts would be meaningless to someone else so its like my own mental language. It seems to be mainly pictures and tactile sense though.
Bluefins wrote:
Hm... does this seem similar?
Interesting. I'm at 9. Can't imagine how hard it must be for someone at 1.
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