Who listens repeatedly and has learned a second language?

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02 Jan 2016, 3:56 pm

What I meant is, Who stims by listening to the same song, TV show, movie, or a part of one of the three over and over again and has learned a second language? If so, what impact do you think this type of stimming has had on your acquisition of that language?

For me, it seems to have been very useful. When learning Japanese, I switched to Japanese language materials for when I stim. What's great about this is that I can get hours a day of listening practice with no effort, since this kind of stim is something I already do automatically. I think this was crucial to acquiring the good pronunciation I have in Japanese today, where even with not the best vocabulary or grammar I get native speakers wondering if I've lived in Japan (I haven't, though I've been there) and who do not switch to English on me.

Has anyone else had experiences with this stim in relation to a second language?


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02 Jan 2016, 4:04 pm

Interesting. I often listen to the same piece of music or song over and over again, and speak numerous foreign languages. Having a good ear for music and linguistic ability often go together, but until you mentioned this I'd never made the connection.



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02 Jan 2016, 4:07 pm

I listen to things over and over again and I am shockingly bad at other languages and music (I can play instruments vaguely decently but I cannot sing or get the same note if someone plays it).



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02 Jan 2016, 4:34 pm

While the sheer amount of exposure of the English language by the media, makes for easy learning, I started out by rereading an English novel during 7th grade. I had some basic understanding of the plot at the time, because of a film adaption, but missed out on a lot of subtleties. I could also parrot back lines without a clear understanding. I'd literally finish the book and start over again.



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02 Jan 2016, 5:18 pm

tetris wrote:
I listen to things over and over again and I am shockingly bad at other languages and music (I can play instruments vaguely decently but I cannot sing or get the same note if someone plays it).


I was kinda not so good at Japanese at first, but after years of listening to the same Japanese language stuff over and over, something which took no special effort or motivation to do since being autistic stimming is automatically rewarding, my pronunciation has gotten to a very good level.


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02 Jan 2016, 5:44 pm

Me three. In fact this sort of immersion or "true" immersion are the only ways working with me, most teaching methods at school are quite ineffective sadly. Made my japanese lessons kind of easy, too.



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02 Jan 2016, 5:45 pm

I don't have that ability. I admire that ability.



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02 Jan 2016, 6:03 pm

I have self-taught learned 4 languages next to mother language and one more half.
I do stim repeating words over and over again as I do stim when listening to a piece of music over and over again, and not for weeks but I get attachted to a piece of music for years and decades.
This way I have spent two days learning Spanish with a synergy-language-programme and was able to communicate in a basic way in Spanish per mail.
I dropped it then as obligations to be able to organize things like house-holding and taking care that I eat food were higher demands, as I am really bad at it and hope to get a good routine in it, though the house-holding has improved since then (September 2015), but taking care of food is still a big deal.
I would like to go back to it (Spanish), but my mind is too disorganized at the moment.


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03 Jan 2016, 1:23 am

I notice too that I like to repeat what I've heard while doing this. Right now, there was a scene that I was repeating over and over again in Haruhi Suzumiya in the movie they made (The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina Episode 00), and I've been quietly repeating part of something Mikuru said at one point: いよいよこの時が来たのです。It's like saying it over and over again (even quietly) scratches an itch. I itch to repeat it under my breath and I scratch that itch by doing so.

Is this echolalia, or is this more like a tic?


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03 Jan 2016, 1:58 am

unfortunately, I have a very low verbal IQ so most words i hear are either not retained or are only in the form of rythme so the actual word is lost.

I wish i could do those things though.


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03 Jan 2016, 9:41 am

I think you're very bright. It is quite possible that your verbal IQ doesn't represent your true intelligence because of cultural biases within IQ tests.



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03 Jan 2016, 8:43 pm

I've noticed this happens as well. I was not listening to anything, but while I was doing something else something somebody said suddenly popped into my head, Kyon saying: 敵艦隊、全べーム砲発射!One part of the sentence did not pop into my head, the beginning word of the sentence: 目標 ("target"). I found myself picking the phrase apart in my head after it popped up, especially the word 敵艦隊 ("enemy fleet"). It's interesting, because that word had not really stuck out in my listening, and I am consciously aware of it for the first time.

Does anyone else have stuff you've listened to just pop into your head out of nowhere?


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04 Jan 2016, 12:28 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I think you're very bright. It is quite possible that your verbal IQ doesn't represent your true intelligence because of cultural biases within IQ tests.


Just because my verbal IQ is low, your right, it doesn't affect my intelligence at all, the verbal IQ just says that i am slow of understanding language, this causes issues in reading and writing and also difficulty in understanding whats being said to me. I often forget what someone has said to me within a few seconds, this is why i have echolalia. I also need to watch movies multiple times to understand the dialogue, or the dialogue wont make sense to me. But it doesnt mean im stupid, im still able to read to an extent, i can talk and type so im getting along fine, im just not at the level my peers are.


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