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Sirunus
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05 Nov 2010, 7:33 pm

A few years ago I was blissfully unaware of the things I had been missing out on in life. Before I even knew what Asperger's was, before my diagnosis, I realised that there was something affecting me, but I couldn't work out what it was. I was unable to bond with other human beings, and I felt little to no emotional attachment to other people. Those that I did end up caring about became my new obsessions, my special interests, and thus when said interests drifted away from my life, never to be seen again, my emotions ran wild, my self-pity consumed me and still consumes me to this day.

Sometimes I believe that had there been earlier intervention, if somebody had taken my issues seriously, then I wouldn't have wasted so many years of life in solitude, utterly alone in the darkness, whilst my neurotypical peers lived successful and healthy social lives and relationships. I was left in the nothingness where there existed nothing but my imagination, completely oblivious to the fact that I was oblivious to social cues. I wish I had some inner-strength, some self-belief, but now what little there is of it left is dwindling. Sometimes I feel there is no place for me in society, that I am destined to live the rest of my life alone, which I fear.

Many of you aspies enjoy your solitude and feel no emotional attachment to others thus not missing their company. And it's safe to say I was one of them, and still am to an extent. However, once you finally do develop feelings for someone, and when you learn those feelings may never be reciprocated and you learn of the things that they have that you probably will never have, then it dawns on you that you've been living in a dream your whole life whilst everyone else had been succeeding in their social lives. They have people who love them and would miss them if they were gone. It gets even worse when you taste the things you've never experienced before, the things that your peers have gone through long before you had, and once you feel those things for the first time, then it becomes ever more depressing. It feels like you never matured past the age of fourteen.

Even to this day, I feel no human bonding with others. I do not relate to them. At worst, I'm only considered an acquaintance and at best I'm only considered second-class friend. Though there is a glimmer of hope. I have experienced intimacy with others recently. I kissed a girl for the first time a few weeks ago. Now I'm old enough to understand what it feels like, and it's a beautiful feeling, but I have yet to feel love and be loved, at least not conditional love anyway. Many of these experiences a few and far between, but it's all that I have besides my dreamworld life.

Maybe I should accept myself for who I am. Maybe I'm a solitary creature and not a social one. I am not an asexual aspie, that's the problem. My sexuality was triggered long ago and now there's no stopping it.



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05 Nov 2010, 7:40 pm

I don't have an answer for you. I just want couple really good friends. Other than that I don't care about the social world. Except, socially/ politically. I care about people being given dignity and treated fairly.



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05 Nov 2010, 8:07 pm

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Many of you aspies enjoy your solitude and feel no emotional attachment to others thus not missing their company.

There are also a lot of aspies married with children. So solitude is not a rule, there must be a way.

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Even to this day, I feel no human bonding with others. I do not relate to them

Can you articulate and describe one or more significant moments that makes you realize the disconnection?

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I kissed a girl for the first time a few weeks ago.

What happened after?

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Now I'm old enough to understand what it feels like, and it's a beautiful feeling, but I have yet to feel love and be loved, at least not conditional love anyway

Love is not a continuous state, it is a self-sustaining succession of moments of realizations of love. What are you calling conditional love?

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05 Nov 2010, 8:39 pm

Hoy, mon ami. Until I was about 32 odd old, I made do with [most years] minimal, mostly postal association with a handful of level 2 friends. [notwithstanding a marriage to a level 3 which survived only because I do not surrender easily and the alternative for her was unthinkable - that, by the way started at about age 24].

I now have a circle of about half a dozen 1st level friends, including wife and son.

A few level 1 friends - most NTs I know don't have that many that close, just a lot more level 3 and 2.



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06 Nov 2010, 1:13 am

Sirunus wrote:
A few years ago I was blissfully unaware of the things I had been missing out on in life. Before I even knew what Asperger's was, before my diagnosis, I realised that there was something affecting me, but I couldn't work out what it was. I was unable to bond with other human beings, and I felt little to no emotional attachment to other people. Those that I did end up caring about became my new obsessions, my special interests, and thus when said interests drifted away from my life, never to be seen again, my emotions ran wild, my self-pity consumed me and still consumes me to this day.

Sometimes I believe that had there been earlier intervention, if somebody had taken my issues seriously, then I wouldn't have wasted so many years of life in solitude, utterly alone in the darkness, whilst my neurotypical peers lived successful and healthy social lives and relationships. I was left in the nothingness where there existed nothing but my imagination, completely oblivious to the fact that I was oblivious to social cues. I wish I had some inner-strength, some self-belief, but now what little there is of it left is dwindling. Sometimes I feel there is no place for me in society, that I am destined to live the rest of my life alone, which I fear.

Many of you aspies enjoy your solitude and feel no emotional attachment to others thus not missing their company. And it's safe to say I was one of them, and still am to an extent. However, once you finally do develop feelings for someone, and when you learn those feelings may never be reciprocated and you learn of the things that they have that you probably will never have, then it dawns on you that you've been living in a dream your whole life whilst everyone else had been succeeding in their social lives. They have people who love them and would miss them if they were gone. It gets even worse when you taste the things you've never experienced before, the things that your peers have gone through long before you had, and once you feel those things for the first time, then it becomes ever more depressing. It feels like you never matured past the age of fourteen.

Even to this day, I feel no human bonding with others. I do not relate to them. At worst, I'm only considered an acquaintance and at best I'm only considered second-class friend. Though there is a glimmer of hope. I have experienced intimacy with others recently. I kissed a girl for the first time a few weeks ago. Now I'm old enough to understand what it feels like, and it's a beautiful feeling, but I have yet to feel love and be loved, at least not conditional love anyway. Many of these experiences a few and far between, but it's all that I have besides my dreamworld life.

Maybe I should accept myself for who I am. Maybe I'm a solitary creature and not a social one. I am not an asexual aspie, that's the problem. My sexuality was triggered long ago and now there's no stopping it.


Who ever coined the phrase "ignorance is bliss" was one of the smartest people who ever lived.


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06 Nov 2010, 12:00 pm

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There are also a lot of aspies married with children. So solitude is not a rule, there must be a way.


Yes, you're right. Experience is the solution. I think the older I become, the easier it will be to come out of my shell.

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Can you articulate and describe one or more significant moments that makes you realize the disconnection?


I think it's mostly an emotional disconnection. It usually happens everytime, I just don't "feel it". I think it might be to do with me not picking up the social cues. I can't tell what the other person is thinking or feeling, and I'm usually never interested in small talking with them, but the conversation rarely ever becomes more than small talk. For example, when they ask "what have you been doing today?" I'm usually like "the same thing I do everyday!" I'm well aware that they're not actually interested in what I've "been doing today" rather they're trying to "probe" me in some way, but it just does not happen. Because there's no emotional connection between us, I mean less to them than their real friends. As I said before, I feel like I'm never more than a second-class friend, somebody to talk to when your real friends aren't around.

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What happened after?


Nothing, really! It happened in a club, a girl approached me and kissed me on the lips.

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Love is not a continuous state, it is a self-sustaining succession of moments of realizations of love. What are you calling conditional love?


Conditional love is probably the only love I've ever felt, where you have to earn the other person's love. You have to meet certain conditions in order to be loved. I've never been loved for who I am, nor have I loved anyone else for who they are.

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If you have doubts, there is still hope


Yes, there is still a glimmer of hope, but now I'm behind people who are even three or four years younger than I am. When compared to them, they are adults and I'm still an adolescent.



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06 Nov 2010, 4:18 pm

I'm barely starting to figure out who I am. my advice wouldnt help you :?

but go on, do what feels easy and natural for you. going through life roughshot is hardly a blast :pig:


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07 Nov 2010, 7:36 am

Sirunus wrote:
SuperApsie wrote:
There are also a lot of aspies married with children. So solitude is not a rule, there must be a way.


Yes, you're right. Experience is the solution. I think the older I become, the easier it will be to come out of my shell.

Right, the key is to open gradually with experiment and confidence and for me asking the good questions is the way to find an answer. We do have unique qualities that need to be developed and some behaviors that need a little make up.


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Can you articulate and describe one or more significant moments that makes you realize the disconnection?


I think it's mostly an emotional disconnection. It usually happens everytime, I just don't "feel it". I think it might be to do with me not picking up the social cues. I can't tell what the other person is thinking or feeling, and I'm usually never interested in small talking with them, but the conversation rarely ever becomes more than small talk. For example, when they ask "what have you been doing today?" I'm usually like "the same thing I do everyday!" I'm well aware that they're not actually interested in what I've "been doing today" rather they're trying to "probe" me in some way, but it just does not happen. Because there's no emotional connection between us, I mean less to them than their real friends. As I said before, I feel like I'm never more than a second-class friend, somebody to talk to when your real friends aren't around.


Don't try to change you too obviously and forcefully. You can start a beneficial self-sustained circle by creating an imbalance, you will be driven further with no effort. Question things beyond the obvious, try curiosity

Realize that small talk is no so dull:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt142004.html

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What happened after?


Nothing, really! It happened in a club, a girl approached me and kissed me on the lips.


Know yourself, ask questions about you: what she liked in you.

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Love is not a continuous state, it is a self-sustaining succession of moments of realizations of love. What are you calling conditional love?


Conditional love is probably the only love I've ever felt, where you have to earn the other person's love. You have to meet certain conditions in order to be loved. I've never been loved for who I am, nor have I loved anyone else for who they are.


You're not perfect nobody is, and trade offs are part of the game. And as I told in my first response in this post: expand yourself, so you will attract the girls that suits you.
Know the rules, as men we have to lead the game, and technically it has to be seen as such, it can be interesting.

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If you have doubts, there is still hope


Yes, there is still a glimmer of hope, but now I'm behind people who are even three or four years younger than I am. When compared to them, they are adults and I'm still an adolescent.


Don't stop thinking that's you asset, start the imbalance, be nice and you'll evolve.


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07 Nov 2010, 4:11 pm

Sirunus wrote:
A few years ago I was blissfully unaware of the things I had been missing out on in life. Before I even knew what Asperger's was, before my diagnosis, I realised that there was something affecting me, but I couldn't work out what it was. I was unable to bond with other human beings, and I felt little to no emotional attachment to other people. Those that I did end up caring about became my new obsessions, my special interests, and thus when said interests drifted away from my life, never to be seen again, my emotions ran wild, my self-pity consumed me and still consumes me to this day.

Sometimes I believe that had there been earlier intervention, if somebody had taken my issues seriously, then I wouldn't have wasted so many years of life in solitude, utterly alone in the darkness, whilst my neurotypical peers lived successful and healthy social lives and relationships. I was left in the nothingness where there existed nothing but my imagination, completely oblivious to the fact that I was oblivious to social cues. I wish I had some inner-strength, some self-belief, but now what little there is of it left is dwindling. Sometimes I feel there is no place for me in society, that I am destined to live the rest of my life alone, which I fear.

Many of you aspies enjoy your solitude and feel no emotional attachment to others thus not missing their company. And it's safe to say I was one of them, and still am to an extent. However, once you finally do develop feelings for someone, and when you learn those feelings may never be reciprocated and you learn of the things that they have that you probably will never have, then it dawns on you that you've been living in a dream your whole life whilst everyone else had been succeeding in their social lives. They have people who love them and would miss them if they were gone. It gets even worse when you taste the things you've never experienced before, the things that your peers have gone through long before you had, and once you feel those things for the first time, then it becomes ever more depressing. It feels like you never matured past the age of fourteen.

Even to this day, I feel no human bonding with others. I do not relate to them. At worst, I'm only considered an acquaintance and at best I'm only considered second-class friend. Though there is a glimmer of hope. I have experienced intimacy with others recently. I kissed a girl for the first time a few weeks ago. Now I'm old enough to understand what it feels like, and it's a beautiful feeling, but I have yet to feel love and be loved, at least not conditional love anyway. Many of these experiences a few and far between, but it's all that I have besides my dreamworld life.

Maybe I should accept myself for who I am. Maybe I'm a solitary creature and not a social one. I am not an asexual aspie, that's the problem. My sexuality was triggered long ago and now there's no stopping it.


You just literally wrote my biography for me! D=

I didn't kiss a guy until I was about 22. I hated it, but the emotional closeness was nice.

I have no friends except my mother. I am really depressed about it, too. My stepdad made the tacky, ill-thought out comment of "[. . . .] you never leave the house!"

I must look like such a LOSER to others.

Even when I indulge in my special interests, people look at me as a freak, dork, lesbian (I'm good at karate), or just someone to be ignored. I've never been to a dance, a social, anything that takes other people liking you because other people just don't like me.

I don't even know what makes me happy anymore. I'm sorry I can't help you, but I'm in the same state!


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