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21 Nov 2010, 2:57 am

I'm on a men's dating advice site and when I revealed I had aspergers I got a private message from a guy saying something like "I thought you were just being whiny, but part of me suspected. My advice is, take care of whatever your autism problems are first before doing anything."

Are there are a lot of ignorant NTs like this and have Jenny McCarthyesque "It can be cured" opinions? Not to mention that I don't view autism as a problem, other than lacking common sense in certain situations and not always blending in with the general public.



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21 Nov 2010, 3:03 am

That's odd. Did he think that supplements and therapy could make autism go away? Or did he simply mean deal with your symptoms before dating?


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21 Nov 2010, 3:19 am

nilescrane wrote:
I'm on a men's dating advice site and when I revealed I had aspergers I got a private message from a guy saying something like "I thought you were just being whiny, but part of me suspected. My advice is, take care of whatever your autism problems are first before doing anything."

Are there are a lot of ignorant NTs like this and have Jenny McCarthyesque "It can be cured" opinions? Not to mention that I don't view autism as a problem, other than lacking common sense in certain situations and not always blending in with the general public.


I think the most important bit of information to come away with here is, that you are perceived as whiny.

Women have to deal with whiny children. They don't want to deal with whiny men.

As far as Jenny McCarthy's son being cured, I've heard otherwise from people who have had some interaction with him. Apparently he still has some semantic pragmatic issues.



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21 Nov 2010, 3:45 am

That guy was probably clueless. I don't know what you said and why he thought that, but just because he perceived you as "whiny" doesn't mean you actually were, maybe you were just discussing that you had AS, and he thought you were whining about it just because you mentioned it.

I do agree that there is always things you can do to help yourself with some issues tho (there is a good thread here for tips and advices), but it sounded like he thought it was a psychological issue.

Speaking of Jenny McCarthy, here's an article "After years of speaking out about her son’s autism — and against childhood immunizations — Jenny McCarthy is reversing her position."

http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2010/02/26 ... ad-autism/

Also some traits or issues change and sometimes disappear as people get older, so even if he did have autism it would be easy to attibute some changes to whatever treatments they did and not realise these changes would have happened anyway as he was growing up.

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21 Nov 2010, 6:26 am

Maybe that's not the most sensitive thing but he thinks he was doing you a favor. And women don't like whiny men, neither do other men for that matter. Esp. if it comes across as neediness or self-pitty, it's just not attractive. People who appear self-absorbed are also not considered attractive, also.

There are no real cures for autism but there are things you can do to improve your ability to socialize, for sure. It will just require more effort and you won't exactly be a virtuoso at it, but the idea you can do nothing about the way you behave is ridiculous. It will just require more effort and time than the average person, having to learn more analytically than having the skills by intuition. Self-improvement books are an excellent place to start.



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21 Nov 2010, 7:32 am

Oh my COD (I don't say God) what silly people! We can't take care of these problems!!



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21 Nov 2010, 7:34 am

You can definitely stop being whiny if you have an autism spectrum condition. It's optional.


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21 Nov 2010, 7:51 am

I just thought of something else ... he could have perceived you as whiny just because you were talking openly about some issues, just like we do here, except they are not used to it at this other site and/or they don't want to hear about it.

And if the only thing you said was that you have Aspergers, it definitely doesn't qualify as whiny, its called telling the truth.

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21 Nov 2010, 8:16 am

Message him back and tell him he needs to take care of his ass hole problem before he begins dating.



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21 Nov 2010, 9:44 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
Message him back and tell him he needs to take care of his ass hole problem before he begins dating.


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21 Nov 2010, 11:03 am

What did you say to make him think you were whining?



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21 Nov 2010, 11:52 am

Shadi2 wrote:
I just thought of something else ... he could have perceived you as whiny just because you were talking openly about some issues, just like we do here, except they are not used to it at this other site and/or they don't want to hear about it.

And if the only thing you said was that you have Aspergers, it definitely doesn't qualify as whiny, its called telling the truth.

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That's the thing, I wasn't whining. I've been guilty of whining before on this site at times, but on the dating site, I just mentioned I had Aspergers and how that makes it even more difficult than an average guy. And what he meant wasn't changing the symptoms...the way he phrased it was that "Take care of those Autism problems" like the Autism itself can be cured.



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21 Nov 2010, 12:06 pm

nilescrane wrote:
I'm on a men's dating advice site and when I revealed I had aspergers I got a private message from a guy saying something like "I thought you were just being whiny, but part of me suspected. My advice is, take care of whatever your autism problems are first before doing anything."

Are there are a lot of ignorant NTs like this and have Jenny McCarthyesque "It can be cured" opinions? Not to mention that I don't view autism as a problem, other than lacking common sense in certain situations and not always blending in with the general public.


Punch him in the face and say "huh, looks like you got your own problem to sort out before you start dating, eh?" :roll:



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21 Nov 2010, 12:15 pm

nilescrane wrote:
Shadi2 wrote:
I just thought of something else ... he could have perceived you as whiny just because you were talking openly about some issues, just like we do here, except they are not used to it at this other site and/or they don't want to hear about it.

And if the only thing you said was that you have Aspergers, it definitely doesn't qualify as whiny, its called telling the truth.

Shadi


That's the thing, I wasn't whining. I've been guilty of whining before on this site at times, but on the dating site, I just mentioned I had Aspergers and how that makes it even more difficult than an average guy. And what he meant wasn't changing the symptoms...the way he phrased it was that "Take care of those Autism problems" like the Autism itself can be cured.


Don't mention that you have AS on dating sites. Only bring it up after you meet. People have pre-conceptions about what that means. I've also heard of guy's who mention AS on dating sites get replies back from women who would "prefer someone with more empathy".



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21 Nov 2010, 12:17 pm

Simonono wrote:
Oh my COD (I don't say God) what silly people! We can't take care of these problems!!


What's Call of Duty got to do with this? :lol:



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21 Nov 2010, 12:17 pm

My brother works at a supermarket and said there was a donation thing for autism and some rich housewife said to her husband "Maybe if we donate, we'll get lucky and won't have a kid with Autism" and even the husband said "Um I don't think that's the way it works."