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22 Nov 2010, 4:07 am

Anyone here unable to speak without making useless and meaningless gestures ?

I apparently move my hands a lot, enough to be asked whether I have Italian ancestry or not. No one in my family does that, actually they tend not to make gestures and I make much more gestures than other French people. I can't speak without doing that, they do not mean a thing (though, now that I am working with children I try to mime things). A friend of mine once tried to tie my hands to see what would happen and I was totally unable to say a word.

It was kind of weirder when I was a kid because I used to mime a lot of things. :lol:

I think it's quite weird for someone who does not understand or really see body language. (Though I know one person who does that too, never realized).
And I do that when I think too sometimes.



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22 Nov 2010, 4:15 am

probably means you are a visual-kinestetic learner. Kinestetic people do alot of hand gestures and some cannot talk, or talk well without some movement.


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22 Nov 2010, 7:33 am

Yup. I do a lot of gesticulating too.

It got really bad when I did some work with the deaf community and their translators, as even though I knew no sign langauge I was flapping about with this strange semi-mime stuff that meant nothing to any of the signers or the deaf people.

I think that maybe it helps me to express myself better as I can emphasise words and 'show' what I mean more easily- although my spoken skills are generally excellent.



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22 Nov 2010, 7:37 am

I move my hands a lot when I talk; I have found that it helps the flow of the thoughts I am trying to express. I used to think that it was annoying for the people around me and I tried to do it less, but ever since one of my teachers told me that those more or less meaningless gestures make people feel like I am attentive to and interested in what is being talkes about, I figured it would be okay to keep doing it.


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22 Nov 2010, 10:33 am

I make hand gestures, If I am explaining something like an object, making the shape of it and how big it is, even if I'm not talking about the size :)



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22 Nov 2010, 10:36 am

lostD wrote:
A friend of mine once tried to tie my hands to see what would happen and I was totally unable to say a word..


This is either funny or really weird. How did you end up letting yourself be tied like that?



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22 Nov 2010, 10:39 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
lostD wrote:
A friend of mine once tried to tie my hands to see what would happen and I was totally unable to say a word..


This is either funny or really weird. How did you end up letting yourself be tied like that?


It was an experiment. They wanted to prove me that I would be totally mute without my hands and I wanted to prove them that they were wrong. They were right. Do not worry, it did not last for hours and I had agreed on that.



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22 Nov 2010, 11:38 am

Well now I'm in Greece, I just don't move, I wave when I speak :D

But before I never moved when I was speaking. The only rare moments when I have to move my hands is when I was completing a complex something I was saying.

Do you feel you are completing the idea you speak about? Or do you feel that your motion is precisely linked to what you say without adding a meaning?


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22 Nov 2010, 1:12 pm

Honestly, it depends on what I am saying. I may try to use hand gestures to speak sometimes because I can't use words for some reasons but most of the time I feel that they do not mean the slightest thing and people agree with that. Now that I work with children who do not speak my language, I mime what I am saying so my gestures have changed a lot and this is close to what I used to do as a child but it's quite redondant, I either do gestures because I feel like doing them or to repeat myself physically.



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22 Nov 2010, 1:36 pm

lostD wrote:
Honestly, it depends on what I am saying. I may try to use hand gestures to speak sometimes because I can't use words for some reasons but most of the time I feel that they do not mean the slightest thing and people agree with that. Now that I work with children who do not speak my language, I mime what I am saying so my gestures have changed a lot and this is close to what I used to do as a child but it's quite redondant, I either do gestures because I feel like doing them or to repeat myself physically.


The gestures you use with children are purely situational. But it's not like me for the other cases, my gestures are "chosen" and scarce for a given situation. I think then that the jojobean assumption is correct:

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probably means you are a visual-kinestetic learner. Kinestetic people do alot of hand gestures and some cannot talk, or talk well without some movement.

Et bon courage avec les gosses :)


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22 Nov 2010, 4:50 pm

Merci !

You know, I have been told that I could not be kinesthetic learner because I have dyspraxia and do poorly in / is not interested by sports. (Though, according to some tests, I am visual / kinesthetic), this is interesting though. I cannot concentrate on my lessons when I am not moving or drawing something. :lol:



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22 Nov 2010, 6:35 pm

I make a lot of hand gestures while talking as well. It's almost as though moving my hands makes it easier for the words to come out.



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23 Nov 2010, 12:26 am

best way to shut me up is to tie my hands behind my back.