psychiatry stuff. Disturbing me.

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In the children ward of psychiatry hospital they diagnosed me with Asperger's syndrome. Three years past and now i had to be in the grown ups ward and the new psychiatrist diagnoses me with Schizotypal witch includes some kind of magical thinking. Yes i am weird but i do not have magical thinking and some serious paranoia or whatever the diagnosis includes. I do not have schizotypal personality disorder. This irritates me. I am actually confused, why they never give me any certain tests about asperger's or shizotypal but only look how i am and then put the diagnosis. I am kinda this and that but i am not some schizotypal though i might look like i am. NO magical thinking! My mother might have this because she thinks in very illogical ways and it disturbs me. She can see something in commercial and think it has some hints about her or something like that. She also thinks more about things then she even knows about and she absolutely believes her such illogical thoughts. She is also very paranoid and seems to think that every car driver is stalking her.

The psychiatrist is new. And she didn't even tell me the diagnosis, i had to check the number f21(witch i heard when she was talking with other psychiatrist), here in estonia(maybe else too) it means schizotypal disorder.

I don't want wrong treatment. I feel their anxiety treatment doesn't work much on me. I still have anxiety sometimes and it makes me mad.

I have no magical thinking! My mother has it and i hate her way of thinking, because it disturbs me. Asperger's suited better for me, somehow. I have no huge special interest but i was fine with the asperger diagnosis criteria. At least i love computers and video games, also video game consoles, and i like doing stuff my way. I also love weapons and always get some great feeling when watching and touching weapons. Also i love creating wooden swords. I always draw angry men with or without weapons. And i like puzzles as long as my brain solves them. And i was fine how some 'proffessionals' treated me because i had aspergers diagnosis.

In the end i feel confused i do not know what i am anymore. I feel different from other people, i look weird, but don't have diagnosis that suits me?
I think they have dropped my asperger's diagnosis. Or maybe she hasn't got information about my earlier diagnosis.

Can i ask why they diagnosed me with f21 as schizotypal(?), would they test me more and put some diagnose that suits better if i tell them that i think and feel it is wrong? If it is allowed, then i can tell them that my mother might have it, so they can be more sure that i certainly have no huge paranoid magical thinking like she has.

I think it is very important that you talk to your doctor about your concerns over your diagnosis. Describe your mother's experience, too, and explain why it gives you concern. They are trying to diagnose what is going on in your head. You are the only person who knows about that, really. Be as calm and descriptive as possible. Maybe write stuff down if that helps. Make sure that you check in frequently to make sure that they understand you. I'm sorry you are having such a rough time and hope things get better soon.

I had a similar problem (before I was diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome) and arguing with the diagnosis and treatment just confirmed the psychiatrists' opinions - I got treated for "agitation", and threatened with ECT. The worst part of this problem is that the anti-psychotics will probably mask your real symptoms for a while, so it will take time before they realise that you are not "improving".

Of course autistic symptoms are not going to "improve" with drug treatment (although a medicated patient is a more compliant patient), so you need to point them, as gently as possible, to your childhood and your history. Listing the symptoms and showing which have always been present should help.

I think that some autistic mannerisms and verbal styles can sound a lot like "magical thinking" - little rituals, abstract expressions that sound like concrete beliefs or questions posed as statements (like in maths or logic, except about people).

Are you in the hospital, as an adult in-patient? Was there some incident that caused you to be admitted as an adult?

You have every right to take control of your treatment. You don't have to be a "good little patient" and you don't have to submit to being infantilized. So, yes: You should ask questions, and if your doctors won't answer them, then they need to either shape up or go and be pathologists instead.

I don't actually know if asperger's would be the TRUE diagnosis for me because i started to speak words when i was 10 months. In playschool i was alone. I remember two children who played with me for some time but i was alone most of the time. I was mostly found playing with LEGO. I remember watching other children from a distance. I loved LEGOs. When i started school then i instantly saw and felt that i was different from others. I rarely spoke. Usually only when others came to me with questions. I was good at drawing that was the only thing which got others attention. All those 9 years at school i was the odd and weird person who didn't know how to be like others. Near the end i started to copy others poses. Putting hands in pockets and crossing hands - those stances made me feel less weird, but i was always like a mute statue. I also got bullied but i ignored them even when they hurt me mentally. Even today i have problems with social and emotional stuff. I actually feel like a child emotionally and socially, but sometimes in some other way i feel like a 50 year old person.

But i have done some tests. There was a test were when you get score over 32 then you probably have aspergers. I got 34. I have done tests on the internet and get scores that make me believe that i have that syndrome. Yes now i feel that this anxiety medication doesn't work. I get thoughts and fear of dying because in September i had sharp pain near heart and until today it did something to my brain, i get anxiety attacks. Sometimes rarely it still gives sharp pain, but as i know now it is because of stress. But i have some kind of fear that i can't manage my life. It's stressful to live with my mother who really has that disturbing and annoying 'magical' thinking. I would definitely not be a stereotypical aspie. I am female and a bit more socially aware. It's hard or impossible to make friends. Also i don't have sensory problems, but i do dislike loud sudden noises and i get nuts and start hitting myself or bang head on the wall when someone hurts me mentally so that i would start crying, but i would never attack other people.

They told me that left side of my brain was larger than the right side of brain. I do live inside my head quite a lot and my face shows little or no emotion, but i can feel emotions. And in some situations i can become mute or freeze(perhaps shutdown) and not know what to do. I wish they'd test me more. I must talk to her, with my psychiatrist. I must write things down because i have problem with talking stuff when face to face. Thanks for giving more courage. I am 19, here it means that i am an adult.

I feel kinda lost. (Why they diagnosed me with aspergers when i was in children ward 3 years ago and now they do different stuff?)But i'll tell/write them(i have 2 psychiatrists) that i think their schizotypal diagnose is wrong. Also i'll ask if i can go back to the mental hospital because i feel like sh1t sometimes. Also i feel i am not able to be out here yet. I want some more of the peace i can get there. Hope i wont get addicted to it.

In mental health, they treat kids totally different than adults. Well I suggest bringing to them your online test and the results, and copy, paste, print what you wrote on here. Leave out your mother, they may end up thinking it is genetic. Anyway magical thinking is where you take 2 unrelated events and think one caused the other.

Also tell them that you want to be tested for asperger's and that you want a neuropsych done.

Just about every physhiatrist I have even seen is so ignorant about AS and even autism in general. The last one I saw to get my paxil refilled (because I can't function without it) said I needed to be put on Abilify as soon as he walked in the door. I told him I didn't want too because I have had such a bad expirence with medication in the past and the paxil is doing its job and I don't feel I need anything else but would really like to stop the Paxil. He then says AS is a disease and tells me about his son with AS. I didn't believe him and figured he was making this AS son up to try and convince me to take Abilify. He then threatned to have me commited where they would make me take it.

When I got offended because he said AS was a disease he then said I was bipolar and that I may have been autistic in the past but I am no longer autistic and my diagnosis needs to be changed. Someone call Autism Speaks becuase I am aparently cured. We just continued to butt heads and I basicaly told him to stuff it and walked out the room becuase he was pissing me off so much.

I missed my previous appointment with my therapist (who seems to get AS) and so the people in charge of the office let me see another one to make up for the missed appointment he said that people who are autistic but so high functning like me only continue to label themselves as autistic becuase it's an idenity thing for them. That whole place is weird and I wonder if my therapist (a former school teacher) reallys knows as much about AS as she seems too.

When I was sixteen, my parents commited me to the mental ward of the children's hospital because I was so explosive (it was the medicine I was on but they won't tell you that) and TOLD them I was AS. I supposedly was supposed to see an "Asperger's expert" but my two year old nepphew probably knows more about AS than he did. He let his intern work with me and the intern said I was skitsofrenic. I think he thought that becuase when he asked me if I see and hear things no one else does I sad I did. Maybe I meant, I see and hear things other people don't notice. They also said I had a mood disorder but never spesified speficaly what kind of mood disorder. Manily it was just group therapy and I just wanted to stay in my room and be by myself and draw. The "AS expert" said I could if I wanted to but the nurses on staff forced me to go to the group therapy room and when I fought with her about it, she sent two orderlys to carry me to the "rubber room". They hurt me by twisting my neck and when I told them so they replied, "Then don't try and fight us!" I tried to kick them in the croch but they grabbed my arms and legs. The nurse thought it was a sign of something more serious that I wanted to be alone all the time and so did the phycatrist. If he was an Asperger's expert, then I am the queen of Sheba. All of these people seriously needed a crash course in AS.

Punky, I REALLY hope you aren't still going to this psychologist. Even if he has a son with AS, any competent psychologist should know that every case is not the same, and if Abilify works for his son, that is still no reason to believe it will work for you. If the Paxil is working, why in the world would the man want to change it? He didn't even try to explain himself; just tried to overpower you. That is not the kind of doctor you want to be going to. You want somebody who will actually tell you why he thinks a medication would be useful, what it's supposed to do, and what the alternatives are--not somebody who's going to say, "If you don't take this you'll be committed." What an ass.

Yeah, if you want to be alone in a mental ward they'll call it "isolating yourself" and say it's totally pathological. When, in reality, it's perfectly sane for any introvert trying to keep his brains together. Sit in the dayroom and zone out if you have to, if you have that trick of mental escape. They'll assume you're watching TV. The more compliant you appear the earlier they let you out--but the worse you feel about yourself because you compromised so much. So it's kind of a trade-off.

Sorry to hear about your case. Unfortunately , just because someone has studied many years and has a mountain of qualifications doesn't necessarily mean they a competent. Most doctors iv been to don't seem to have much of a clue and I work with many engineers who are the same. It is best to avoid these people as much as possible as their arrogance usually far outweighs their intellegence and common sense.

Its a difficult one really because I don't know you (op) personally so I can't obviously diagnose you over the internet (plus I am not qualified). I am having a similar problem in that my doctor is trying to diagnose my TREATABLE ADHD with UNTREATABLE borderline personality disorder.

As for the subject of mental hospitals, the same happened to me. Every time I stayed in my room they told me I had to leave. Some days they locked me out of my room on purpose to stop me going back in. I wasn't actually mentally ill when they put me in the hospital (I even have a letter to prove it) but they were trying to fabricate things so they could justify keeping me in there. I was actually homeless, not ill. Thankfully I am in a better place now, a home for AS specifically.

Whether you have AS or Schizotypal PD or anything else, you will always be YOU and no one can change that. That's something I am having to remember to stop myself going insane with anger.

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i dunno your avatar looks pretty mystical, just kidding- looks cool though.

Can you email this person? Or someone on the staff to relay the message asking why they diagnosed you as such and probably ask if they are aware of your past diagnosis.

I have to visit one of the psychiatrists once a week or so and talk about how i have been. About a week until the visit. I'll write stuff down before i go. I want her to understand. I hope they will. I definitely do not have this magical thinking. I think i do not even believe paranormal stuff. I don't understand why they haven't given me any tests about the diagnosis, but only look at me with their "intelligent" look and diagnose by that.