So NTs are automatically born with social skills?

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09 Dec 2010, 6:45 am

my mom said my first word was mom at one year old, but in the following years i was pretty nonverbal at school.

I lived a fantasy land of comics, dinosaurs, and spaceships untill 7th grade.

I was born and raised into a geek, a nerd.

I greet you with the vulcan hand symbol but then im beaten to the ground by the hood rat classmate or the school crazy guy or the jock, it makes me just hate myself to the point of wanting to take my own life.

After I learned about aspergers, I threw away EVERYTHING I owned, all my toys and things i collected, i burned a book I wrote feeling a book written by a ret*d is not worth reading..

Back the the main question, NTs are born automatically with these social skills and confidencE?? it seems that way.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:00 am

They don't all have confidence, born with it or not.

And as far as social skills... it's more like they're in the majority so they tend to find it easier to predict each other. (Easier. Not easy all the time for them either. They can have social difficulties too, they're not perfect by any means, nor are they all alike.)


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09 Dec 2010, 7:10 am

Feedmysoul wrote:
I greet you with the vulcan hand symbol but then im beaten to the ground by the hood rat classmate or the school crazy guy or the jock, it makes me just hate myself to the point of wanting to take my own life.
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After I learned about aspergers, I threw away EVERYTHING I owned, all my toys and things i collected, i burned a book I wrote feeling a book written by a ret*d is not worth reading..

Several ret*ds have sold their books. Getting labeled isn't the end of the world.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:20 am

They are born with a better facility for learning them.


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09 Dec 2010, 7:26 am

When you feel isolated it's easy to think everyone else is cruising along with no problems. Truth is that everyone has difficulties in all sorts of things. You can be excellent at social situations and be well loved even if you are pretty dumb, and you can be really smart with no people skills getting picked on by all.

Everyone learns social skills, some learn it easier than others. I feel bad that you took finding out about AS so badly, I hope with some time you can use the knowledge to your advantage. While it's harder for you to learn social cues, now at least you know the reason. It's not impossible for you to start learning some social things, be proud of who you are, learning social cues is going to be hard for you but it has no relationship with your inner intelligence.



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09 Dec 2010, 7:56 am

Nope. NT's do have a much easier job getting those skills though. To them, it's like learning to walk, or learning your first language. Something you can just do innately, without having to focus on. There is a window for developing social skills, and if they "miss" this, for whatever reason, then they can be quite impaired (look at the numerous cases of children living with animals from birth for examples.)

For an aspie, learning social skills is probably more like learning a second language as an adult - difficult, but possible, and you'll never have the fluency or eloquence of a first language speaker (although I'm probably being a little pessimistic in the second part of that sentence.)


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09 Dec 2010, 8:02 am

From what I've seen, they are not all born with social skills. Some have them, some do not. A lot of times it's determined by the parents, peer pressure, siblings and family members and what kind of social skills they have. The kids tend to mimic what goes on around them.



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09 Dec 2010, 8:41 am

Aparently. I lived in a fantasy world as a kid too...and aparently still do because I won't give up my goal of becoming a veternarian. I think people are actually just jelous that they didn't follow their dreams and let others convince them they couldn't. When they see someone who is not going to give up they label them "stuck and stuck in a fantasy world.


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09 Dec 2010, 9:12 am

NTs don't have to consciously learn most social skills. To them, socializing is like breathing.



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09 Dec 2010, 9:53 am

Aspiezone wrote:
NTs don't have to consciously learn most social skills. To them, socializing is like breathing.

I'm not sure about that. Maybe culture and upbringing have something to do with their social success, not just innate social skills there from birth. Maybe some locations have better socializers than other locations?



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09 Dec 2010, 10:12 am

One coworker mentioned that he watched a TV show that he didn't really like because his friends watched it. Faux pas in social situations are much more likely if you don't do what your friends do.



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09 Dec 2010, 10:17 am

Feedmysoul wrote:
I greet you with the vulcan hand symbol but then im beaten to the ground by the hood rat classmate or the school crazy guy or the jock, it makes me just hate myself to the point of wanting to take my own life.

Back the the main question, NTs are born automatically with these social skills and confidencE?? it seems that way.


I agree with what the others said, that NTs are not born with social skills but they may be easier for them to learn. And that everyone have their own issues, NTs just like everyone else.

On the other hand sometimes I wonder ... could it just be that we assume they learn the social rules better, when in fact what they learn better are the "NT" social rules while we learn the "AS" social rules? strangely I always found it much easier to socialise with someone who is on the spectrum, it seems we find each other, but since NTs are the majority their rules are considered the norm.

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09 Dec 2010, 10:20 am

Feedmysoul is a known troll and has been banned.


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