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21 Jan 2013, 9:50 pm

Alright I have to say this, because quite frankly, part of me will die in side, if I am not honest.

So what I'm about to say is coming from my personal experience on this site and IRL.

I've thought about saying this for quite a while but something was holding me back, but quite frankly at this point I cannot pretend.

In all fairness I realize that we've all been given a tough hand in life, but this alone cannot allow me to actively accept defeat.

My personal opinion is that many on this site have a severe problem with complaining, seeking out negativity, and in general feeling sorry for themselves.

Again I'm not saying this to be hurtful, I'm saying this, because it'd be immoral for me to withhold this opinion from you, as it's something I believe strongly.

Again I'm not saying you shouldn't voice your hurt, pretend to happy when your not, or to ignore your personal issues, what I am saying is if you seriously wanna improve your life in any shape or form, you have to acknowledge this severe problem that this site faces.



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21 Jan 2013, 10:03 pm

And how do you propose that we address this issue hmm?



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21 Jan 2013, 10:10 pm

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And how do you propose that we address this issue hmm?
Simply acknowledge it as an issue would be step 1.

Step 2 is trying to regulate your negative posts.

Also realizing that a negativity bias, is strong in any community united by negatives.

Step 3 would be trying to unite over things that are less negative. I'm not suggesting one pretends to be happy, but at the very least trying find topics that are not negative in general would be of much value to us as a people.



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21 Jan 2013, 10:15 pm

Was a thread started so the OP can complain about the complaining on this forum?



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21 Jan 2013, 10:22 pm

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Was a thread started so the OP can complain about the complaining on this forum?
Please don't try turning this into a game about semantics, or some form of argument.

I am making an honest effort here, I'm not attacking anyone, I am not complaining, I'm giving the best advice I can give.



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21 Jan 2013, 10:26 pm

I think you have yet to establish whether this is actually a severe problem rather than a personal peeve.



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21 Jan 2013, 10:30 pm

one should not begrudge people their greviances.



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21 Jan 2013, 10:34 pm

Exactly. Most of the stuff I discuss here is so I don't have to discuss it anywhere else. Most of the stuff here is so I can put it into words to discuss it in therapy. If I had no outlet for this, I'd be all over the place.

Overall, having WP as an outlet has actually made it easier for me to improve my daily functioning. I can't speak for anyone else, but that's what I get out of it.



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21 Jan 2013, 10:48 pm

Or we only reveal a fraction of our real problems on Wrongplanet.



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21 Jan 2013, 11:03 pm

IMO part of the problem is the nature of the forums. Most are organized to discuss our problems (ie L&D, Social Skills and Making Friends, General Autism Discussion...) It's hard to discuss positive aspects of your life on some of these forums because it seems insensitive



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21 Jan 2013, 11:13 pm

alex could add a "positive" forum but how to keep it from degenerating into a bragfest?



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21 Jan 2013, 11:13 pm

deltafunction wrote:
Part of the problem is the nature of the forums. Most are organized to discuss our problems (ie L&D, Social Skills and Making Friends, General Autism Discussion...) It's hard to discuss positive aspects of your life on some of these forums because it seems insensitive


I think people are looking for something positive. I'm not the best at recognizing these things but I think there is a sense of community on WP and most people would be happy to hear the successes of others. I know I am.



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21 Jan 2013, 11:25 pm

Rascal77s wrote:
deltafunction wrote:
Part of the problem is the nature of the forums. Most are organized to discuss our problems (ie L&D, Social Skills and Making Friends, General Autism Discussion...) It's hard to discuss positive aspects of your life on some of these forums because it seems insensitive


I think people are looking for something positive. I'm not the best at recognizing these things but I think there is a sense of community on WP and most people would be happy to hear the successes of others. I know I am.


I hope so!



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22 Jan 2013, 12:09 am

Some of us, myself included, treasure having a place where we can be ourselves. To mention the things that bother us or get to us, to seek help or comfort in the ethereal arms of a stranger over the internet. To be able to have someone say "yeah, that happens to me to" or to get advice from people that share a collective understanding is worth more than mountain of gold to many of us.

At no other place could I be Joseph Ridgeson; I would have to be the simulation that I put on in order to get through life. To be able to have a place where I can safely express my own thoughts and feelings or read about those that are also seeking such a place is truly fantastic,

To complain about some of the more negative aspects that the people disclose on these forums is to equate those issues with something that the person needs to cope with on their own, which is exactly what shouldn't be done in many cases.

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22 Jan 2013, 12:15 am

Verdandi wrote:
I think you have yet to establish whether this is actually a severe problem rather than a personal peeve.


Sorry if I weren't perfectly clear, I think this site poses a severe problem, and I think in many ways we'd be better off if this site didn't exist at all.

When I say that I do not mean I hate this site, I do not mean I wanna leave, what I mean is it's blatantly obvious that this site is exceptionally negative. To the point that compared to the 20-30 different message boards I've been on, this one is by far the most negative.



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22 Jan 2013, 12:19 am

Ogrejoe wrote:
Some of us, myself included, treasure having a place where we can be ourselves. To mention the things that bother us or get to us, to seek help or comfort in the ethereal arms of a stranger over the internet. To be able to have someone say "yeah, that happens to me to" or to get advice from people that share a collective understanding is worth more than mountain of gold to many of us.

At no other place could I be Joseph Ridgeson; I would have to be the simulation that I put on in order to get through life. To be able to have a place where I can safely express my own thoughts and feelings or read about those that are also seeking such a place is truly fantastic,

To complain about some of the more negative aspects that the people disclose on these forums is to equate those issues with something that the person needs to cope with on their own, which is exactly what shouldn't be done in many cases.

Ogre.



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