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18 Dec 2010, 1:11 pm

Does anyone else sometimes feel NTs are against you? Do they sometimes have an answer to everything you say, without really understanding what you're trying to say? Happens to me a lot.

It's normally my family who are like this, especially after a meltdown. My meltdowns would completely die down if I had a little empathise by other people. When people keep on sticking up for eachother against me, it rages me up even more and it makes me feel isolated. I don't normally have a meltdown when I'm happy about things and I'm not really anxious about anything at the precise moment, but when something earlier on has upset me, then somebody or something later on in the home upsets me, my meltdown wouldn't occure if people could see I was already looking anxious, and ask, ''OK, what's the matter?'' But NTs don't - as long as things are all right for them. That's what annoys me.

After a meltdown when I try to say sorry to them, I can't be completely against myself (and after all, NTs always want a reason for outbursts and arguments), so I say things like, ''I'm sorry, but at the time I just lost my temper,'' and they just reply unhelpful responses like, ''you make us lose our temper!'' Or if I was trying to be on their side and go against my meltdowns and saying something like, ''my meltdowns can't do my blood pressure any good,'' they'll just say, ''you can't be doing our blood pressure any good!'' And it always goes on like that. And if I tried being reasonable and saying, ''look, retorting back at me doesn't get us anywhere!'' they'll just say, ''you don't get anywhere by shouting and moaning!'' It's so annoying! I can never win. They are always against me, no matter how hard I try to set things right again. Yes, my meltdown has caused upset for them, but it's no good holding grudges when they've known me for 20 years - I like to be brave enough to come upto them and talk things through - and they still prefer to argue. What is wrong with them?

And all the books say Aspies are the ones who can't empathise! :roll:


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18 Dec 2010, 1:48 pm

I've felt this way in the past and I would feel the whole world is against me. With being on my own and out of school, that problem went away.


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18 Dec 2010, 1:50 pm

Joe90 wrote:
Does anyone else sometimes feel NTs are against you?


Only when they are, which is all the time. Your brain is wired differently, so you will always appear as a freak to them and that's how they will treat you. They don't get how you think, or why you do things the way you do, so you'll always seem weird or annoying to them. The only people who will really accept you are other weirdos. But that's okay, they're the only interesting people anyway.


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18 Dec 2010, 2:05 pm

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Only when they are, which is all the time. Your brain is wired differently, so you will always appear as a freak to them and that's how they will treat you. They don't get how you think, or why you do things the way you do, so you'll always seem weird or annoying to them. The only people who will really accept you are other weirdos. But that's okay, they're the only interesting people anyway.


But, looking at it that way, aren't we the same as NTs then, with the not understanding part? Let me explain: my brain is wired differently to them, so I don't understand them and I can't put myself in their shoes. Their brain is wired differently to me, so they don't understand me and they can't put themselves in my shoes. So, in a way, not understanding people who think differently, whoever we are, is just a normal human thing. People on the spectrum just get accused for not understanding others because there are less of us than there is of them, but really, everyone's like it to others who are different. NTs are just as bad with their lack of understanding for Aspies, as Aspies are with our lack of understanding for them. Does that make sense?


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18 Dec 2010, 5:20 pm

I can definitely relate to that. Right now I feel like nobody around me understands my conditions except the only other Aspie I know in Orange County, and I only get to visit her once a week. With her it continues to be severe ups & downs. I've only met two female Aspies in my life - one in Orange County, CA, USA (who I'm mentioning anonymously) and one other in Cincinnati/Hamilton County, OH (if she's still there; I hope she & her husband left cuz that town is a WAR ZONE).

You've had family issues for 20 years? So have I :(. My mom is the first person I think of when I listen to "If You Don't Know Me By Now" by Simply Red or "Let Me Go" by 3 Doors Down.



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19 Dec 2010, 4:48 am

That the world is against me (Being treated unfairly by Life): Yes I feel this way from time to time.


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19 Dec 2010, 5:00 am

I have had that problem too at college with certain students but enlighten me what does NT stand for.



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19 Dec 2010, 5:03 am

NT = neurotypical.

http://isnt.autistics.org/



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19 Dec 2010, 5:16 am

I have this problem with mostly my siblings. They love me, and I, them, but there is a major disconnect going on there. We try to relate with each other, but too much is left unsaid and the silence between us can sometimes be deafening. It is so weird being in the same room with someone who shares 1/2 of your genes and socially be miles apart.


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19 Dec 2010, 5:52 am

I'm not saying my family don't love me, because I'm very close to them and they all love me - but when it comes to my outbursts and meltdowns, they completely hop onto a different wavelength, and they just accuse me for being the bad one, and they're all the innocent good ones, which is true in a way but it's not the right way to go about it, because I don't delibrately go to upset them. Meltdowns just happen on the spur of the moment, and they're mostly beyond my control.


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19 Dec 2010, 8:27 am

NTs are against me, as well. The workers at my bank hate me. I know that they do, now. The less money I spend, the less they'll have to deal with me.


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