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19 Dec 2010, 9:02 pm

Disney seems to have forgotton Lion King ever exhisted. I remember watching Nathan Lane on Jeopardy once (the only reason I ever watched it was in hopes they would ask a question about meerkats or Lion King) and was so pissed at him for not mintioning he did the voice of Timon. This was like fifteen years after Lion King was released. I don't think I will ever master theory of mind 100%. Nathan Lane forgetting about his former roles of Timon and Preed isn't as bad as having to accept the fact my parents are curbies. I could go on and on until the cows come home about how bad autism speaks is but she won't listen. She says she would even have me cured so I could be happy finnaly. I admit I can't really feel happiness and told her I think I will finnaly be happy when I become a vet but she thinks I will never really be happy. My mother dosen't really believe in me about being a vet, or basicaly anything. My mother thinks I am destined to be on social sucurity for the rest of my life. I'm actualy looking foward to Autism Speaks elemating autism 100% becuase then they will be sorry when no one can fix their Ipod or computer. I really think the only person who is going to be smart enough to cure autism is going to be autistic themself. I have to wonder if my parents would be Nazi supporters if they lived in that time. Anyway, I think I will always hold a grudge against Nathan Lane for never mintioning he did the voices of Timon and Preed. It's as if they never exhisted. At least I never have to worry about the Creator of meerkats forgetting He created them and at least I matter to Him. Anyway, does it drive you crazy when people who worked on your special intrests act as if they were never created?


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19 Dec 2010, 9:16 pm

Well, my interest in primatology was cultivated by Jane Goodall, and I don't think there is much danger of her not talking about it. But I'm sure she has a personal life, and if I tuned into a special and all she spoke about was her favorite cheeses and the movie she saw last week, I would be highly irked.

So I suppose I could understand how frustrating that could be. On the theory of mind idea, think "Nathan Lane=actor" (job) and "Nathan Lane=Lion King" (task). He has completed many tasks; he may not ascribe the same influence to any one as you do. When you become a vet . . ."Helping Animals" (job), "Helping Mr. Fluffypants III" (task). For you, you love all of your animal patients, but whoever brought in Mr. Fluffypants III only cares about Mr. Fluffypants III.



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19 Dec 2010, 9:18 pm

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Disney seems to have forgotton Lion King ever exhisted. I remember watching Nathan Lane on Jeopardy once (the only reason I ever watched it was in hopes they would ask a question about meerkats or Lion King) and was so pissed at him for not mintioning he did the voice of Timon. This was like fifteen years after Lion King was released. I don't think I will ever master theory of mind 100%. Nathan Lane forgetting about his former roles of Timon and Preed isn't as bad as having to accept the fact my parents are curbies. I could go on and on until the cows come home about how bad autism speaks is but she won't listen. She says she would even have me cured so I could be happy finnaly. I admit I can't really feel happiness and told her I think I will finnaly be happy when I become a vet but she thinks I will never really be happy. My mother dosen't really believe in me about being a vet, or basicaly anything. My mother thinks I am destined to be on social sucurity for the rest of my life. I'm actualy looking foward to Autism Speaks elemating autism 100% becuase then they will be sorry when no one can fix their Ipod or computer. I really think the only person who is going to be smart enough to cure autism is going to be autistic themself. I have to wonder if my parents would be Nazi supporters if they lived in that time. Anyway, I think I will always hold a grudge against Nathan Lane for never mintioning he did the voices of Timon and Preed. It's as if they never exhisted. At least I never have to worry about the Creator of meerkats forgetting He created them and at least I matter to Him. Anyway, does it drive you crazy when people who worked on your special intrests act as if they were never created?


Find another animated movie with talking animals? Like Secret of NIMH (<3) or Watership Down?



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19 Dec 2010, 9:22 pm

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Disney seems to have forgotton Lion King ever exhisted. I remember watching Nathan Lane on Jeopardy once (the only reason I ever watched it was in hopes they would ask a question about meerkats or Lion King) and was so pissed at him for not mintioning he did the voice of Timon. This was like fifteen years after Lion King was released. I don't think I will ever master theory of mind 100%. Nathan Lane forgetting about his former roles of Timon and Preed isn't as bad as having to accept the fact my parents are curbies. I could go on and on until the cows come home about how bad autism speaks is but she won't listen. She says she would even have me cured so I could be happy finnaly. I admit I can't really feel happiness and told her I think I will finnaly be happy when I become a vet but she thinks I will never really be happy. My mother dosen't really believe in me about being a vet, or basicaly anything. My mother thinks I am destined to be on social sucurity for the rest of my life. I'm actualy looking foward to Autism Speaks elemating autism 100% becuase then they will be sorry when no one can fix their Ipod or computer. I really think the only person who is going to be smart enough to cure autism is going to be autistic themself. I have to wonder if my parents would be Nazi supporters if they lived in that time. Anyway, I think I will always hold a grudge against Nathan Lane for never mintioning he did the voices of Timon and Preed. It's as if they never exhisted. At least I never have to worry about the Creator of meerkats forgetting He created them and at least I matter to Him. Anyway, does it drive you crazy when people who worked on your special intrests act as if they were never created?


Find another animated movie with talking animals? Like Secret of NIMH (<3) or Watership Down?


Because Lion King is my special intrest and no matter which movie I choose, the animators, voice actors and everyone involved will have forgotton about it eventualy. Titan A.E. is this other "talking animals" movie.


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19 Dec 2010, 9:34 pm

I guess that's why people do fan art/fiction, tributes, etc. I guess you have to continue that creation in your own way... become a creator, and not just a passive viewer.


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19 Dec 2010, 9:42 pm

I don't think that Tim Burton and Johnny Depp ever really "move on" from the movies they do together, which are my primary special interests. In fact, when Johnny Depp went on David Letterman a couple of weeks ago, they talked about Edward Scissorhands for a little while, and that movie was released 20 years ago! On DVDs and Youtube and such, you can see that Johnny and Tim often give interviews about the inspirations behind the movies they do together. On a similar note, I don't think that Helena Bonham Carter will ever forget her role as Mrs. Lovett in Sweeney Todd (which is the role that caused me to develop a crush on her), because that was a role she wanted very badly.



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19 Dec 2010, 10:26 pm

Personally, I liked Disney's darker phase.

When they were doing things like the Black Cauldron and Oliver Twist. I miss their more realistic, less cartoony side.



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19 Dec 2010, 11:00 pm

Watership Down has got to be the darkest movie with talking animals I have ever seen. Titan A.E. is also great, but the animals in it talk because they're aliens, haha.

But anyway... yes, I do find it sad and frustrating when people who have created something I love seem to burn their bridges later on.



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19 Dec 2010, 11:15 pm

I don't know if this counts, but when a TV show ends and it drops out of existence (i.e., no DVD releases) it's kind of depressing. I loved MURPHY BROWN and I think they only released the first season, which I can't find anywhere. Same with NASH BRIDGES.


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19 Dec 2010, 11:27 pm

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I don't know if this counts, but when a TV show ends and it drops out of existence (i.e., no DVD releases) it's kind of depressing. I loved MURPHY BROWN and I think they only released the first season, which I can't find anywhere. Same with NASH BRIDGES.


You might be able to at least find sites to stream it, if you look hard enough. And nice quote, BTW. I love Taoism.



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19 Dec 2010, 11:35 pm

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I don't know if this counts, but when a TV show ends and it drops out of existence (i.e., no DVD releases) it's kind of depressing. I loved MURPHY BROWN and I think they only released the first season, which I can't find anywhere. Same with NASH BRIDGES.


I feel the same way about Sports Night. Only 2 seasons? That show was fantastic. OK, yeah, they did release the DVDs eventually, but I wish the show had been on longer.

Nathan Lane is fantastic, too. But he's done a lot of work and you can't expect him to mention everything. Johnny Depp is famous for not letting roles go (he named his son Jack) and especially since he has worked so often with Tim Burton...


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19 Dec 2010, 11:51 pm

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Disney seems to have forgotton Lion King ever exhisted. I remember watching Nathan Lane on Jeopardy once (the only reason I ever watched it was in hopes they would ask a question about meerkats or Lion King) and was so pissed at him for not mintioning he did the voice of Timon. This was like fifteen years after Lion King was released. I don't think I will ever master theory of mind 100%. Nathan Lane forgetting about his former roles of Timon and Preed isn't as bad as having to accept the fact my parents are curbies. I could go on and on until the cows come home about how bad autism speaks is but she won't listen. She says she would even have me cured so I could be happy finnaly. I admit I can't really feel happiness and told her I think I will finnaly be happy when I become a vet but she thinks I will never really be happy. My mother dosen't really believe in me about being a vet, or basicaly anything. My mother thinks I am destined to be on social sucurity for the rest of my life. I'm actualy looking foward to Autism Speaks elemating autism 100% becuase then they will be sorry when no one can fix their Ipod or computer. I really think the only person who is going to be smart enough to cure autism is going to be autistic themself. I have to wonder if my parents would be Nazi supporters if they lived in that time. Anyway, I think I will always hold a grudge against Nathan Lane for never mintioning he did the voices of Timon and Preed. It's as if they never exhisted. At least I never have to worry about the Creator of meerkats forgetting He created them and at least I matter to Him. Anyway, does it drive you crazy when people who worked on your special intrests act as if they were never created?


You could learn animation and do it yourself. I am going to be doing stopmotion animation I am right now buying the gear to do it. There is many forms animation such as 2D, 3D computer, cut out, claymation, stop-motion puppet, and clay on glass. I feel any form of animation would be good for an autistic person. If your intrested on animation pm and I'll send you some of the how to information I have collected over the years.


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20 Dec 2010, 12:06 am

although it hurts you that he didnt talk about it because you identified with those characters, maybe because he is on an adult show talking about worldly things, he probably decided not to bring it up. However if he was on Nickeloneon (sp) he would probably would discuss it in length. He was probably just talking about what the viewers on Jeopardy want to hear. Most who watch Jeopardy, dont have much of an inner child. However The lion King will always be with him as it was part of his life.

As far as the curebie mom, she just wants you to be happy from what I hear, and she doesn't want you to get hurt if you fail in vet school. I know that is wrong, but that is how parrents think. However my mom was the same way until another parent with a kid that was autistic told her that I had the right to fall flat on my @ss as much as any other kid does, and it is not fair to hold me back because I might fail. Well I did go to college, I would have graduated but I kept getting stalked, so I had to come home (long story there) However I learned so much and I become a much more educated person having done that. I found myself in college. Well I am going to try to go back to college again because I want to be an art therapist for folks with ASD's like me. I found that my time out of college gave me more focus of what I want to do...so I am reloading.

However as far as happiness goes... Happiness is like playful puppy that got loose. As long as you chase happiness, it will evade you, but as soon as you stop chasing it and just accept things as they are...happiness will settle into your lap in the form of contentment.

Your mom has to know the nature of happiness in order to "cure" you...if she just accepts things as they are, she stands a better chance in showing you happiness. But as long as she is chasing your happiness, neither of you will be happy.

And my mom had a moderate case of the curbies, but out of all the doctors that did tests on me, some painful and invasive, and all the therapists that talked with me about life and social skills and all the kings horses and kings men that she pulled together to try to put humpty dumpty (me) back together again...they couldn't....but when I discovered art...art healed me. because of instead of focusing on what I could not do, art focused on what I could do...and that made all the difference in the world for me.

Art did not heal me of autism, but gave me a voice....and to this day, still does.
print this off and show it to your mom...maybe she will understand that all this focus on what we cant do...will never heal us, but focusing on what we can, will. And if you go to Vet school and fail...at least you were given the right to try as any kid without disabilities has, However if you succeed, then you have overcome your disability and you healed yourself.

The cure for autism will not be found in a pill, brain surgery, or therapies of any kind, the cure for autism is within us to find our voice, our skills, and our inner strength and be granted the right to be human as much as anyone else. If for some reason as shift occured in our society and autistics were seen as a gift to humanity as we are...we would not suffer near as much. Much of our suffering is because the world does not accept us and we are treated like second class citizens of our society. I am not saying we are better than NT's but that we are not less human either.


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20 Dec 2010, 2:43 am

*Sigh* Stargate Universe. :(


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20 Dec 2010, 3:00 am

Stargate overall. It's really weird that there won't be any SG on SciFi for the foreseeable future. SGU wasn't my favorite but it looked like they were building toward a coherent narrative and redeeming what I disliked about the first season. SGA was taken out prematurely as well, and SG-1 didn't get any more movies. I've been following this franchise since SG-1 was on Showtime and, really, since the film was in theaters (although I don't see the movie and the series as being quite the same property/universe).

Before that was Farscape. I was dissatisfied with the miniseries, although I am glad it was made and there was some closure.

The Old World of Darkness. At the time I thought the revamp would sustain my interest (which was already fading), but since I've had almost painful nostalgia when looking back.

Oh, the original V. I was so fixated on this, I had to know everything about it - the miniseries, the novels, the TV series. Even though it just kept going downhill I was totally obsessed until its cancellation. The new V just isn't the same. If I'd known that the creator had left during the second miniseries at the time it aired, I don't know if I would have stuck with it.

I'm sure there are others. I mean sometimes, like with Buffy, it really did seem like a good stopping point with real closure, and my interest is still alive (I rewatch the series once a year). I just wish I had scripts or transcripts archived for reading.



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20 Dec 2010, 11:15 am

Xeno wrote:
Watership Down has got to be the darkest movie with talking animals I have ever seen. Titan A.E. is also great, but the animals in it talk because they're aliens, haha.


If we ever do find aliens, I think they will be animals.

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although it hurts you that he didnt talk about it because you identified with those characters, maybe because he is on an adult show talking about worldly things, he probably decided not to bring it up. However if he was on Nickeloneon (sp) he would probably would discuss it in length. He was probably just talking about what the viewers on Jeopardy want to hear. Most who watch Jeopardy, dont have much of an inner child. However The lion King will always be with him as it was part of his life.

As far as the curebie mom, she just wants you to be happy from what I hear, and she doesn't want you to get hurt if you fail in vet school. I know that is wrong, but that is how parrents think. However my mom was the same way until another parent with a kid that was autistic told her that I had the right to fall flat on my @ss as much as any other kid does, and it is not fair to hold me back because I might fail. Well I did go to college, I would have graduated but I kept getting stalked, so I had to come home (long story there) However I learned so much and I become a much more educated person having done that. I found myself in college. Well I am going to try to go back to college again because I want to be an art therapist for folks with ASD's like me. I found that my time out of college gave me more focus of what I want to do...so I am reloading.

However as far as happiness goes... Happiness is like playful puppy that got loose. As long as you chase happiness, it will evade you, but as soon as you stop chasing it and just accept things as they are...happiness will settle into your lap in the form of contentment.

Your mom has to know the nature of happiness in order to "cure" you...if she just accepts things as they are, she stands a better chance in showing you happiness. But as long as she is chasing your happiness, neither of you will be happy.

And my mom had a moderate case of the curbies, but out of all the doctors that did tests on me, some painful and invasive, and all the therapists that talked with me about life and social skills and all the kings horses and kings men that she pulled together to try to put humpty dumpty (me) back together again...they couldn't....but when I discovered art...art healed me. because of instead of focusing on what I could not do, art focused on what I could do...and that made all the difference in the world for me.

Art did not heal me of autism, but gave me a voice....and to this day, still does.
print this off and show it to your mom...maybe she will understand that all this focus on what we cant do...will never heal us, but focusing on what we can, will. And if you go to Vet school and fail...at least you were given the right to try as any kid without disabilities has, However if you succeed, then you have overcome your disability and you healed yourself.

The cure for autism will not be found in a pill, brain surgery, or therapies of any kind, the cure for autism is within us to find our voice, our skills, and our inner strength and be granted the right to be human as much as anyone else. If for some reason as shift occured in our society and autistics were seen as a gift to humanity as we are...we would not suffer near as much. Much of our suffering is because the world does not accept us and we are treated like second class citizens of our society. I am not saying we are better than NT's but that we are not less human either.


Will do but my mom will probably get mad and tell me I am exgerating things.


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