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23 Aug 2016, 2:59 pm

I'm starting fresh with a new thread here.

I have a theory that everyone with aspergers has there own unique thought structure - their brains are wired in very unique ways that are exclusive to them, so it is very difficult for anyone to really understand how an aspie ' s mind works. There mind needs to work in a very unique and esoteric way in order for them to function, even when it causes extreme anxiety and immature behavior Anyway, I'd really like to know more about this, particularly when your unique aspie brain feels like it's been glitched beyond repair by something that's probably related to some vitamins you were taking to treat your autism



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23 Aug 2016, 3:23 pm

Everybody has unique thought systems. It is not just an aspie thing.

There are general overall differences between NT and autistic thought but people have more in common then they like to admit.


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23 Aug 2016, 3:32 pm

I have an extra step in my thought process, first I label everything. For instance, a few weeks ago I was hand washing a carpet and I got a bucket and an old bath towel with holes in it from the basement, when I got upstairs I stood there hold those two items for a minute or two thinking "alright, this towel seems too big to be called a rag because it's a bath towel and it's too big to be called a rag, that would have to be like an old wash cloth or hand towel to be a rag", then I started focusing on the bucket saying to myself "this could be called a bucket or pale, but the word pale could be used to describe the absence of color, so I'm just going to call it a bucket". That's all fine until you are at work and you stand there looking like an idiot for 2 minutes. :(



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23 Aug 2016, 3:34 pm

AdamLain wrote:
I have an extra step in my thought process, first I label everything. For instance, a few weeks ago I was hand washing a carpet and I got a bucket and an old bath towel with holes in it from the basement, when I got upstairs I stood there hold those two items for a minute or two thinking "alright, this towel seems too big to be called a rag because it's a bath towel and it's too big to be called a rag, that would have to be like an old wash cloth or hand towel to be a rag", then I started focusing on the bucket saying to myself "this could be called a bucket or pale, but the word pale could be used to describe the absence of color, so I'm just going to call it a bucket". That's all fine until you are at work and you stand there looking like an idiot for 2 minutes. :(


LOL!! ! That's awesome, I even repeat junk when I type!



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23 Aug 2016, 4:28 pm

There is no single person whose mind works exactly the same as someone else.

My brain for example is pretty flexible with moral things. I would never intentionally hurt anyone because I can feel the pain of people I hurt and I get very scared when someone around me is hurt and all I want is help them but I can easily make some mental turnaround in my head and think of logical and emotional reasons when hear about someone else who did bad things. For example the pilot who killed a bunch of people by intentionally crashing a plane - I know it was bad but I could easily play devils advocate if I wanted.

I believe I got this one because I was bullied a lot in the past and being naturally good(no lies, no making fun of others, no smoking, no drinking, no drugs...) I couldn't understand why they are so mean. To stay sane I did a lot of thinking and concluded they probably are afraid of me who is different and they fight me just like animals fight some unfamiliar kind. And as I realized I am the evil/dangerous one according to their feelings/opinion I figured good and evil are subjective feelings of a person, not something universal.

I also have a gift in understanding cats. I understand their body language better than human.

And I tend to see everything in my head. My visual imagination is greatly developed.

"Going to kitchen" makes me literally see first person view of me getting up from my chair, going to room door, opening them, going through the hall, walking down the stair, walking through another hall and entering the kitchen. My visual memory is so good I can close my eyes and still see my whole room. The image is dark like in middle of night with lights off and I fail to see the details but I know where every single furniture part is and I can walk around with eyes closed and find pretty much any item I need - as long as I remember where I last seen it. I will be about 20cms accurate with just my mental sight as I walk (therefore I will find the right furniture) and do the rest by physically touching an item - which makes me "see" all items in it's area(oh, I am touching the hairbrush<seeing it>... so next to it is the mirror<see>, the cream<see>, the medicine <see> and the box with old phones<see> and also...). The only problem is mess on floor - I will sometimes accidentally step on stuff when I try this trick because don't remember the trash being there. Just like would in actual darkness.

It isn't restricted to my room/house - I can mentally see pretty much anything I ever seen or create realistic images of stuff I never seen. My dreams are very vivid and when I read a book I don't see the text - I see a movie.
But I am indeed best with places. I can even draw a plan of a house I visited just once, a few years before. I will just do a walk in my visual memory.
However I struggle remembering faces for some reason. People are just grey, human shaped figures in my imagination. I will see their clothes and hairstyles, even some facial features if I focus hard enough - but that's it.



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23 Aug 2016, 4:43 pm

I think Aspie thought-patterns frequently deviate from a societal "norm." The "societal norm" is something which is pretty amorphous and vague, though. But Aspies sometimes cross a certain "line"; thus, they stand out.

However, I believe Aspies make use of objectively-derived input as well as NT's. They are frequently not solipsistic to the point where they lose touch with objective reality.



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23 Aug 2016, 5:25 pm

Let me elaborate - these vitamins I took caused some kind of derealization and it's the unique, esoteric parts of my brain that feel most effected by it. It really feels like somethings been glitched up beyond repair and I don't know how to describe it. I really really can't function very well unless everything is very intense and "black or white", it feels like I've been chemically lobotomized. I don't care if things were very painful for me when they were intense, at least I didn't feel desensitized to the thought of dying and life felt like it had meaning. And there are even more complicated parts of this problem I can't even begin to describe.



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23 Aug 2016, 5:28 pm

Which vitamins did this to you?



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23 Aug 2016, 7:58 pm

I think it was methyl b12 shots



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23 Aug 2016, 9:03 pm

Kiriae wrote:
There is no single person whose mind works exactly the same as someone else.

My brain for example is pretty flexible with moral things. I would never intentionally hurt anyone because I can feel the pain of people I hurt and I get very scared when someone around me is hurt and all I want is help them but I can easily make some mental turnaround in my head and think of logical and emotional reasons when hear about someone else who did bad things. For example the pilot who killed a bunch of people by intentionally crashing a plane - I know it was bad but I could easily play devils advocate if I wanted.

I believe I got this one because I was bullied a lot in the past and being naturally good(no lies, no making fun of others, no smoking, no drinking, no drugs...) I couldn't understand why they are so mean. To stay sane I did a lot of thinking and concluded they probably are afraid of me who is different and they fight me just like animals fight some unfamiliar kind. And as I realized I am the evil/dangerous one according to their feelings/opinion I figured good and evil are subjective feelings of a person, not something universal.

I also have a gift in understanding cats. I understand their body language better than human.

And I tend to see everything in my head. My visual imagination is greatly developed.

"Going to kitchen" makes me literally see first person view of me getting up from my chair, going to room door, opening them, going through the hall, walking down the stair, walking through another hall and entering the kitchen. My visual memory is so good I can close my eyes and still see my whole room. The image is dark like in middle of night with lights off and I fail to see the details but I know where every single furniture part is and I can walk around with eyes closed and find pretty much any item I need - as long as I remember where I last seen it. I will be about 20cms accurate with just my mental sight as I walk (therefore I will find the right furniture) and do the rest by physically touching an item - which makes me "see" all items in it's area(oh, I am touching the hairbrush<seeing it>... so next to it is the mirror<see>, the cream<see>, the medicine <see> and the box with old phones<see> and also...). The only problem is mess on floor - I will sometimes accidentally step on stuff when I try this trick because don't remember the trash being there. Just like would in actual darkness.

It isn't restricted to my room/house - I can mentally see pretty much anything I ever seen or create realistic images of stuff I never seen. My dreams are very vivid and when I read a book I don't see the text - I see a movie.
But I am indeed best with places. I can even draw a plan of a house I visited just once, a few years before. I will just do a walk in my visual memory.
However I struggle remembering faces for some reason. People are just grey, human shaped figures in my imagination. I will see their clothes and hairstyles, even some facial features if I focus hard enough - but that's it.


I absolutely visualize every move I make even days in advance, down to going to the credit union and picturing how I will walk through the door, go to the desk, take the pen out of the holder, fill out deposit slips, what I will say to the clerk, everything. It's also why I have been hit by cars twice and almost get hit once a month, walking around in a complete daydream.



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23 Aug 2016, 9:57 pm

AdamLain wrote:
I absolutely visualize every move I make even days in advance, down to going to the credit union and picturing how I will walk through the door, go to the desk, take the pen out of the holder, fill out deposit slips, what I will say to the clerk, everything. It's also why I have been hit by cars twice and almost get hit once a month, walking around in a complete daydream.


Oh my goodness ... please be careful, will you? :D



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23 Aug 2016, 10:26 pm

the_phoenix wrote:
AdamLain wrote:
I absolutely visualize every move I make even days in advance, down to going to the credit union and picturing how I will walk through the door, go to the desk, take the pen out of the holder, fill out deposit slips, what I will say to the clerk, everything. It's also why I have been hit by cars twice and almost get hit once a month, walking around in a complete daydream.


Oh my goodness ... please be careful, will you? :D


Don't worry it doesn't hurt I'm kind of a bad ass! :lol:



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24 Aug 2016, 4:39 am

AdamLain wrote:
the_phoenix wrote:
AdamLain wrote:
I absolutely visualize every move I make even days in advance, down to going to the credit union and picturing how I will walk through the door, go to the desk, take the pen out of the holder, fill out deposit slips, what I will say to the clerk, everything. It's also why I have been hit by cars twice and almost get hit once a month, walking around in a complete daydream.


Oh my goodness ... please be careful, will you? :D


Don't worry it doesn't hurt I'm kind of a bad ass! :lol:

Nah. You are just too focused on the future to feel current pain.



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24 Aug 2016, 4:54 am

If only things didn't feel so fragile, holding onto the hope that there is a med that can restore that hypersensitive "intense world" and ways to fix all the glitchy data I'm my brain might be enough to let me chillax for a while. Almost. I also want to be really careful around any areas of my brain responsible for "grounding" things, however tempting they may be.



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24 Aug 2016, 9:54 am

I would, whenever possible, let your creativity flow. Write things down.

I hate to say it: but one must have some "grounding." There must be some structure to what you're doing and feeling.



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24 Aug 2016, 10:50 am

Sure Why not...


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