Are We as Aspies More Gullable than NT's?

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thechadmaster
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30 Jun 2006, 10:04 am

To me it seems that i am more gullable than an average person, i confuse easily, but do not have "meltdowns". I am never up to date on trends and such, nobody tells me.ihave NO friends and get left "holding the bag" quite a bit. I find that if i ask someone a question and they think it is rhetorical or something they dont answer, meanwhile i am standing there waiting for an answer and they look at me like i am an idiot.

The world does not tolerate people who "dont get it" i had a teacher back in high school tell us that "i dont get it" is not an acceptable phrase in school. Am i just slow or what?

In the "real world" if you dont get it you get left behind, when i get left behind and noone tells me how to catch up, i stay left behind. I have one phrase to sum up my social existance

"YOU GOTTA TELL ME THESE THINGS"

IM NOT A f*****g MIND READDER!!



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30 Jun 2006, 11:16 am

thechadmaster wrote:
"YOU GOTTA TELL ME THESE THINGS"

IM NOT A f*** MIND READDER!!



ok you sound aspie...and you see when you say how you feel in capitals that i have highlighted above?


if this continues..you will have a meltdown......welcome to aspieville dude..get a diagnosis and you wont have a melt down.



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30 Jun 2006, 11:21 am

donkey wrote:
thechadmaster wrote:
"YOU GOTTA TELL ME THESE THINGS"

IM NOT A f*** MIND READDER!!



ok you sound aspie...and you see when you say how you feel in capitals that i have highlighted above?


if this continues..you will have a meltdown......welcome to aspieville dude..get a diagnosis and you wont have a melt down.


Or you might have a meltdown anyway, dx or no dx. The way I avoid them is by not giving a f*** anymore. Be one with my insanity, so to speak. It keeps me more adjusted.



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30 Jun 2006, 11:34 am

Sundy wrote:
Or you might have a meltdown anyway, dx or no dx. The way I avoid them is by not giving a f*** anymore. Be one with my insanity, so to speak. It keeps me more adjusted.



*nodding*



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30 Jun 2006, 11:43 am

Bummer. I completely understand. Yes we are more gullable. Mean people suck. But nice people let them. Don't let them. I too seem slow. But don't worry about it, you know you are okay. So what if we have to break every f_____ thing down to the bare essence. So kill us. You will be okay. Hang in there. Get a diagnosis. Find yourself. I just graduated from pharmacy school. I am sure there are people that never believed I'd be able to...But how do they like me now? Do your best...find something you like. When people leave you, out forget about them. YOU ARE OKAY!! !!



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30 Jun 2006, 2:11 pm

Yes we are more gullible. Over time, being fooled over and over can lead to paranoia and general mistrust of others.



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30 Jun 2006, 2:14 pm

I know we are gullible. I've been fooled a whole lot of times


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30 Jun 2006, 4:04 pm

already have a dx, i know i do but i dont like it



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30 Jun 2006, 7:28 pm

lowfreq50 wrote:
Yes we are more gullible. Over time, being fooled over and over can lead to paranoia and general mistrust of others.
This is how I am. I try to cover up the slightest trace that I am a potential target of manipulation. It's hard, but I don't want to be manipulated. It's a horrible feeling to find out that your friend is just manipulating you, I just don't know how to react to that.

I used to be really gullible, but now I'm really cautious. I don't trust anyone, and I try not to get attached to people so that I don't fool myself to tell people information I don't want them to know.



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30 Jun 2006, 10:05 pm

I can be gullible, but I'm almost never fooled into doing something--because I have trust issues. Big ones. It generally takes me about four months of covert observation to decide whether or not someone is likely to try to trick me, and only after such a period will I acquiesce to any requests.

That has a nice effect of keeping the manipulators away from me, for few people interested in my for their own reasons can hold up under such scrutiny, and leaves the people who are genuinely interested in my friendship. (Alas, the latter are few.)


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01 Jul 2006, 2:35 am

thechadmaster wrote:
To me it seems that i am more gullable than an average person,! !


I would not call that gullible, I just call that not understanding a social situation. Aspies have a greater ability to root and discover the truth, just like a scientist does. NT just get on by lying manipulating and believing in their own lies, nothing to do with truth.

Maybe be sometime being gullible can be worth it, to be cheated on many times just to find that one trusted person is better then not trusting anyone and mistakably turning the trusted person down.

Aspies are not gullible like NTs can be. They don’t go to war ,based on lies, and get themselves killed thinking they are doing gods work. They don’t develop hate that manifests out of their own ignorance.



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01 Jul 2006, 1:12 pm

Aspi_Chav, that's a very good positive way of looking at it. :)



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02 Jul 2006, 5:00 pm

SolaCatella wrote:
I can be gullible, but I'm almost never fooled into doing something--because I have trust issues. Big ones. It generally takes me about four months of covert observation to decide whether or not someone is likely to try to trick me, and only after such a period will I acquiesce to any requests.

That has a nice effect of keeping the manipulators away from me, for few people interested in my for their own reasons can hold up under such scrutiny, and leaves the people who are genuinely interested in my friendship. (Alas, the latter are few.)


I'm also fairly paranoid and suspicious about everyone and everything.

I also read about and try to understand body language and facial expressions, that sort of thing can help, for example look at the people around you are they laughing or not?

But that isn't always possible, so my backup method is to play anything back on them, ie laugh at everything or nothing and generally be a bit unpredictable



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02 Jul 2006, 6:11 pm

lowfreq50 wrote:
Over time, being fooled over and over can lead to paranoia and general mistrust of others.


I Think it already is



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02 Jul 2006, 11:46 pm

I have always been very gullible. Unless I already know that what someone has told me is not true, I can almost always be fooled. However, I do not know if I am more gullible than most NTs.



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03 Jul 2006, 7:58 pm

I think being mind blind or a least in serious mind vision challenged I can't tell if a NT'S body language and words agree or disagree therefore I go by what the words said and end up getting fooled. I have devoloped the following defense I someone tells me any thing that sounds fish I make eye contact and i mean eye contract I stare unblinking into there eyes. I either unnerves there or the stare comes over (in body language) something like " Do you really think I am that stupid"
It doesn't always work but I get fooled less now that I did a few years ago.