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Jamesy
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11 Jan 2011, 10:35 am

Okay when discussing my question i do not want a debate about what semantic pragmantic disorder is just an answer to my current predicament.

As a 3 year old in 1992 my mother noticed that i was desruptive at play schools and often i would sit alone in the corner prefering my own company whereas the other kids would be sitting in a circle being social. As a teenager in school i needed learning suppourt assistans in nearlly all of my of my lessons except PE, English, Religious Education and Art because I had learning difficulties.

Looking back on my old records from 1996 it had me down as semantic pragmantic disorder but no mention of aspergers. In school when i was 13 my mother suspected i might have AS because of friendship, communiction problems and the fact i had panick attacks at school.

i asked the head of my learning suppourt staff in school when i was 15 what condition i had and she said "Its semantic pragmantic langauge disorder and it makes you get obssesed over things. the head of my learning suppourt group said to my mother "Put down aspergers on james record when he leaves school so he can get more help on the learning front in college."

in my late teens and when entering my 20's all i ever heard from then on from my family was "You have aspergers syndrome" etc etc etc..........i have never been officialy diagnosed with it. my brother always accuses me of having it.

here is why i think i might have AS
Find things harder than other people like functioning in every day life
obssesive compulsive thinking
higher levels of stress
anxiety disorder
insomnia (i take herbal sleeping which make it easier for me to fall a sleep
do not always maintain eye contact when talking
over use of hand gestures when talking
not very good communictaion and poor social skills
not always easy maintianing friendships.
odd gait
no emotion
slightly montone voice i think?
reptitive routines and rituals
talk about the same things sometimes and repeat myself like a broken record at times
obbsessive compulsive disorder
lack of humour appreciation
mood disordersi think?

mind you i have got a nice group of friends.

do you think i have been misdiagnosed has having aspergers or is it possible i developed AS in my teenage years? it could just be a big misunderstanding. its a bit off using the asperges label as a means just to get me more learning suppourt help in college.



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11 Jan 2011, 10:55 am

I think that your symptoms do indicate that a proper exam would be worthwhile. At any rate, you want to name whatever's going on by it's name, regardless of where on the spectrum it is. I'm not a doctor so I'm not able to say whether or not it's AS; but, I can say it's worth seeing a psychiatrist to get a diagnosis. I have a diagnosis and we have behaviors in common.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:01 am

Yeah wefunction but what is a mystery is how did i go from having semantic pragmantic disorder to then developing aspergers?

its funny in my family a lot of my relatives including my parents show mild traits of aspergers without actually having it.

i am too afraid to get a diagnosis



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11 Jan 2011, 11:06 am

Jamesy wrote:
Okay when discussing my question i do not want a debate about what semantic pragmantic disorder is just an answer to my current predicament.

As a 3 year old in 1992 my mother noticed that i was desruptive at play schools and often i would sit alone in the corner prefering my own company whereas the other kids would be sitting in a circle being social. As a teenager in school i needed learning suppourt assistans in nearlly all of my of my lessons except PE, English, Religious Education and Art because I had learning difficulties.

Looking back on my old records from 1996 it had me down as semantic pragmantic disorder but no mention of aspergers. In school when i was 13 my mother suspected i might have AS because of friendship, communiction problems and the fact i had panick attacks at school.

i asked the head of my learning suppourt staff in school when i was 15 what condition i had and she said "Its semantic pragmantic langauge disorder and it makes you get obssesed over things. the head of my learning suppourt group said to my mother "Put down aspergers on james record when he leaves school so he can get more help on the learning front in college."

in my late teens and when entering my 20's all i ever heard from then on from my family was "You have aspergers syndrome" etc etc etc..........i have never been officialy diagnosed with it. my brother always accuses me of having it.

here is why i think i might have AS
Find things harder than other people like functioning in every day life
obssesive compulsive thinking
higher levels of stress
anxiety disorder
insomnia (i take herbal sleeping which make it easier for me to fall a sleep
do not always maintain eye contact when talking
over use of hand gestures when talking
not very good communictaion and poor social skills
not always easy maintianing friendships.
odd gait
no emotion
slightly montone voice i think?
reptitive routines and rituals
talk about the same things sometimes and repeat myself like a broken record at times
obbsessive compulsive disorder
lack of humour appreciation

mind you i have got a nice group of friends.

do you think i have been misdiagnosed has having aspergers or is it possible i developed AS in my teenage years? it could just be a big misunderstanding. its a bit off using the asperges label as a means just to get me more learning suppourt help in college.


Out of curiosity, what was your first autistic symptom? Sometimes people start out with a disorder other than AS, and the disorder causes traits that mimic AS. I'm trying to get a better understanding of the issue.


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11 Jan 2011, 11:08 am

I am not really sure what my first autistic symptoms where? My mother did say though that when i was 3 i started having behaviour problems nursery school like wanting to be on my own and odd behaviour if that counts? According to my parents i did not really have a delay that badly in learning to speak i think?

Like i said as a child the label semantic pragmantic disorder was always used for me. Nowadays all i hear is AS. I think semantic pragmantic disorder and AS share many things in common.

according to doctors which examined as a child my way of making friends as a child was very immature and i was having neurological problems. one child pyschologist said that i would "Turn out to be normal when older"

my parents did also propose the idea to me that me being vacinated is what caused me to develop my disorder.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:14 am

It is not possible to "develop AS in your teenage years". You were either born with it or you don't have it. That doesn't mean that your symptoms did not become apparent to others until your teenage years.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:14 am

Jamesy wrote:
Yeah wefunction but what is a mystery is how did i go from having semantic pragmantic disorder to then developing aspergers?

its funny in my family a lot of my relatives including my parents show mild traits of aspergers without actually having it.

i am too afraid to get a diagnosis


If you have AS (that's still an "if"), I think it's more likely SPD was a misdiagnosis rather than that you developed AS.

I'm afraid of the dentist but we force ourselves to get some things done. It helps if you share your irrational fears of a diagnosis with the doctor.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:15 am

Jamesy wrote:
my parents did also propose the idea to me that me being vacinated is what caused me to develop my disorder.


They need to be educated in critical thinking skills.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:15 am

Jamesy wrote:
my parents did also propose the idea to me that me being vacinated is what caused me to develop my disorder.


That study has been debunked as a hoax. There is no connection between autism and vaccinations.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:20 am

Yes i agree my mother told me that i could have been misdiagnosed with SPD. Do you think its because AS was not heard of in the 1990's? I also agree that my behaviour as a teenager must have prompted suspicion amongst my parents to the possiblitly of me having AS.

i have also been suspected to have dyslexia because i have spelling problems etc.... when i started college i did a test with the learning suppourt assistants and it came up on the comptuer with 'dyslexia' when completed the test.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:44 am

OK, I went and read the Wikipedia article on semantic pragmatic disorder, and it turns out it's an outmoded term that isn't even used in diagnoses anymore. You can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatic_ ... impairment

The article says that pragmatic language impairments are caused by autism, Asperger's, as well as "auditory processing disorders, neuropathies, encephalopathies and certain genetic disorders." So unless you have one of those latter disorders, by process of elimination you must have an autism spectrum disorder.

Asperger's was a relatively new diagnosis possibility when you were diagnosed as a kid; semantic pragmatic disorder was still a diagnosis that was in use. Basically, YOU didn't change but the terminology to describe your traits did. You didn't "develop Asperger's", you had it all along.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:45 am

I don't link Dyslexia with Autism. Obviously someone with Autism could have Dyslexia, too, but I never thought they want hand-in-hand. Maybe I'm wrong. My husband is Dyslexic, especially with numbers. He's a network engineer so he just pays very close attention to his work and triple checks what he's doing. Because he's known about his Dyslexia since the 70's, he's had the time and experience in managing it in ways that another person may not have had.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:50 am

arielhawksquill don't just assume i have aspergers becasue i have not been officialy diagnosed. but yeah probably a very decent chance i do have it.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:52 am

Jamesy wrote:
arielhawksquill don't just assume i have aspergers becasue i have not been officialy diagnosed. but yeah probably a very decent chance i do have it.


Your profile indicates that you have been diagnosed with an ASD, so you can't hold it against people when they speak to you as though you have.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:58 am

Well i had to put something on my profile. sorry i guess that was kinda my fault but i think i do have AS nevertheless.



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11 Jan 2011, 12:07 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Well i had to put something on my profile. sorry i guess that was kinda my fault but i think i do have AS nevertheless.


You can choose "Aspergers - Undiagnosed" for your profile and that should give everybody the right impression until you know one way or the other.