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18 Jan 2011, 4:09 am

Hi there,

getting my diagnosis just caused understand more how i am a part of human evolution and also how determined my behavior was. Reading a book about autism just explained many things, and it was horrible, that some other guys knew me better than i did know myself. This also led to more doubts in my believe in god.

How was it for you? did it change your view on reality, god and so on?

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18 Jan 2011, 4:25 am

Post self diagnosis, I remain as agnostic as ever.


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18 Jan 2011, 4:33 am

Nope, my diagnosis didn't change my believes in anyway. But sometimes i wonder if God has some kind of plan for us aspies.


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18 Jan 2011, 4:59 am

Self-diagnosed and trying to get an official diagnosis, but my sense of religion (agnostic at this time) was completely unchanged.



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18 Jan 2011, 5:09 am

Many points of view changed before during and after. Thing is, my beliefs about things were not a part of me at birth. I started learning somewhere along the line though. The more I learn, the more my beliefs change, the less I learn, the more they change - regardless, they are always changing.
During diagnosis, I had came to the point where some things I thought I believed but didn't want to, became true. Beliefs are something that I am no good at forcing upon others and even less effective when forcing them upon myself. Without this failure, I would never have learned, so it was really a success in the end.
Some people can sell water to a drowning man, that's not me. I have no reason to even attempt such things - I'm no good at it. On the other hand, if I see a drowning man, I will reach out my arm for help - but I cannot swim for him. I had to be pulled under many times before learning this.
After diagnosis, I feel that I have a little more clarity on the importance of others choice of beliefs and how they have nothing to do with me. A person's belief is a choice they have made for themselves not for me. People judge, some to the extreme. The extreme part is what I have to stay away from, extreme anything can be a bad thing for me. So when it comes to the God concept, some days He is - some days She isn't, as long as I'm not playing God, everything works out in the end.



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18 Jan 2011, 5:39 am

Moog wrote:
Post self diagnosis, I remain as agnostic as ever.


Same.

I'm agnostic, but I believe in some sort of God. Though I also accept evolution. I don't see why one can't accept both.


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18 Jan 2011, 5:46 am

Very true - science and religion seldom agree, however both speak of and have proof of evolving change. Both speak of and claim proof of creation............I better stop huh.............



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18 Jan 2011, 6:21 am

So do you also believe that artificial life can be created?



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18 Jan 2011, 6:34 am

Well, what do you mean by artificial life?



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18 Jan 2011, 6:37 am

I'm going to express my unpopular and unworldly views on this. I believe in God and I believe in creation. I always have and I always will.


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18 Jan 2011, 7:06 am

No. My diagnosis is almost entirely related to how I interact with people.


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18 Jan 2011, 7:36 am

I was already an atheist before my diagnosis. It helped me understand why I'm so hungry for information and why I have a hard time accepting things that don't make sense at all though.



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18 Jan 2011, 8:23 am

antonblock wrote:
Hi there,

getting my diagnosis just caused understand more how i am a part of human evolution and also how determined my behavior was. Reading a book about autism just explained many things, and it was horrible, that some other guys knew me better than i did know myself. This also led to more doubts in my believe in god.

How was it for you? did it change your view on reality, god and so on?

byebye,
anton


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When I was diagnosed with ADHD Inattentive including central auditory processing disorder (CAPD), I certainly did take a look a little at what my concept of God was. In my view, God is an idea. God can be defined quite differently by different non-profit religions.

Is God directly linked to what happens everyday on planet earth or is God more of a hands off/aloof God?

Nerves In Collision book by Walter C. Alvarez, M.D.
When Bad Things Happen to Good People book by Harold Kushner, a conservative rabbi

Oh, God! (1977 comedy film) starring John Denver and George Burns

Pilgrim's Progress (2008 movie) based on the book by John Bunyan - a science fiction religious movie told under the literary device of a dream

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The books by Alvarez (Christian perspective) and Kushner (Judaism perspective) directly address the concept of God and neurological challenges/difficulties.

Generally speaking, non-profit religions will try to avoid answering the question completely or provide nonsense answers such as: It's all a mystery or even it's God's will that innocent children/innocent people suffer which is 100% balderdash (my view).

The question is a very hot topic - a taboo topic - that the most common answer by non-profit religions is not to try to answer the question at all because the right answer can often affect the day's collection plate revenues in some way.

Non-profit religions have a right to exist as much as do the authors of such movie characters/series as The Wizard of Oz, Mickey Mouse, Dr. Who, Star Trek, The Lone Ranger, Superman, Batman, Harry Potter, and so on (my view). For some reason. the people behind such series as Star Trek (etc.) seem to be more honest than the people behind some large non-profit world religions (my view). It's often all about entertainment and money (movie ticket/church pewrenters' fees). Here and there, there certainly are inspiring stories told which emphasize the imagination, not reality.

Your question is a good question - one which simply is not posed at all within the walls of many temples, churches, and mosques because such a question has financial consequences (my view again).

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Also: Joseph Campbell, others. Words: Storytelling, metaphors, similies, poetry, philosophies, etc. Can a few persons, both women and men, make a good living by playing imaginary characters on Broadway and in Hollywood? Yes. Some actors and actresses (musicians, artists, etc.) can spend their entire lives (so to speak) in make-believe roles - from the cradle to the grave figuratively. Theater/opera. Old song: Row, row, row your boat gently down the stream...



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18 Jan 2011, 8:36 am

I haven't got an official diagnosis yet. I doubt it would change my non-religious status. I just never cared about those "big questions".

How exactly would finding that you have ASD prove the existence or non-existence of god? I always thought that just shows people are all different. Like the taste of food, there are all sorts of different flavors, most would prefer sweet over bitter, but there are those who like to eat bitter stuff, too.



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18 Jan 2011, 12:27 pm

I was diagnosed when I was 10, so at that point, I didn't really know much about God. I guess that made me an atheist by default at that point. Now, I don't concern myself with God. If a god of some sort is up there (or down somewhere else?), well, I can't see it, so until I do, I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.



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18 Jan 2011, 12:28 pm

In all of my years being alive (42), I went from being an ardent evolutionist into believing in Scripture. I've always known I was autistic, and autism has played a huge role. I have a very analytical mind and have used it to analyze science, history, linguistics and believe that science in its pure form does not support the idea of us coming from a single celled organism. Being autistic has not only given me disabilities, but it has also given me many different talents. So many in the scientific community see us as freaks of nature who are in need of a cure, but many other people see me as a problem solver. Many people who do not invite me on dates or to attend social events are the very ones that call on me when their computers, cars, telephone systems, plumbing, or electrical systems break down. These are the same ones that call on me when they lock their keys in their homes or cars. These are the same people who will also rise to my defense if they think someone is trying to take an advantage of me as well. I'm also a valued member and contributor to my congregation as well as other organization to which I volunteer. We are each put here for a purpose whether we are autistic or neurotypical.


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