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19 Jan 2011, 11:45 pm

...because of a) my age b)my inability to pay and/or c) the fact I live in the only industrialized nation WITHOUT universal health care. And no even with "Obamacar", the US is far from having UHC.

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19 Jan 2011, 11:47 pm

NickfromCali wrote:

...because of a) my age b)my inability to pay and/or c) the fact I live in the only industrialized nation WITHOUT universal health care. And no even with "Obamacar", the US is far from having UHC.

Obamacare=stupidity as far as I am concerned, I mean fining people who can't afford to buy it? sounds like a scam to me. But yeah it is rather annoying that unless you have a nice amount of money its really difficult to get much help with anything.

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19 Jan 2011, 11:57 pm

@Sweetleaf--grow up and get informed.

@Nick--I'm in your situation too. I have a dx, which I got on at a sloping scale clinic in the late 90's. But there's nothing for me in terms of help or health care coverage. AS doesn't even qualify me for unemployment in my state. And don't blame Obama for that--blame the f*****g GOP. THEY are the ones who think you don't deserve help. :roll:

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20 Jan 2011, 12:18 am

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...because of a) my age b)my inability to pay and/or c) the fact I live in the only industrialized nation WITHOUT universal health care. And no even with "Obamacar", the US is far from having UHC.

What kind of "help" do you think you could buy IF you could pay for it?

Why not take all of the tests online? I think they are as good as a fifteen minute interview with a shrinker, who will also give you the same tests (in a different room by yourself), and then bill you or medical insurance $500.00.

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20 Jan 2011, 12:26 am

obamacare is a step in the right direction, but there's lots more things that need to be fixed and redone in order to get true universal healthcare implemented... including improving minimum wage and your tax system...

tall-p: online tests are not as good as having the papers from a certified shrink, also there's no way to tell that an online test could be BS.

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20 Jan 2011, 12:27 am

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@Sweetleaf--grow up and get informed.

Way to assume, thanks for that I really needed it right now :cry:

, I doubt you care but I do inform myself on things and that's what I've found about the Obamacare thing. I don't agree with the whole fining people that can't pay for it.

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20 Jan 2011, 12:41 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

Mercurial wrote:

@Sweetleaf--grow up and get informed.

Way to assume, thanks for that I really needed it right now :cry:

, I doubt you care but I do inform myself on things and that's what I've found about the Obamacare thing. I don't agree with the whole fining people that can't pay for it.

In practice, no one is going to be fined for not having insurance.

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20 Jan 2011, 12:44 am

Verdandi wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

Mercurial wrote:

@Sweetleaf--grow up and get informed.

Way to assume, thanks for that I really needed it right now :cry:

, I doubt you care but I do inform myself on things and that's what I've found about the Obamacare thing. I don't agree with the whole fining people that can't pay for it.

In practice, no one is going to be fined for not having insurance.

Well that's not what I heard, my understanding was the government assumes everyone would be able to afford it and that people would just choose not to......so there would be the equivalent of a fine for anyone who does not purchase that health care plan. I suppose even if I had not heard that i would still have my suspcions though.

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20 Jan 2011, 12:53 am

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What will those "papers from a certified shrink" do for you? Asperger's isnt a disease or an infirmity. It's a wiring thing... like synesthesia... imho. Or maybe like having a different bios... if a brain was a lovely word processing, sensory gobbling, naming everything computer.

If the online tests were b/s do you think they would be posted here without being flamed to the end of the world? ;)

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20 Jan 2011, 12:54 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

Yeah, well, I heard people would be sent to prison for not having insurance, and that won't happen either. When it comes to the requirements and penalties I don't believe anyone who already has a vested opposition to health care, and just about everything that sounds like that seems to come from that camp..

I mean, the same people who came up with the "death panel" rhetoric.

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20 Jan 2011, 1:00 am

Raising taxes on the people who were born rich as f**k... I can deal with that.

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20 Jan 2011, 1:02 am

Online Asperger's test are fine and all that, but not accepted as a diagnosis by Social Security, psychiatrists, and the Deparrtment of Rehabilitation.

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20 Jan 2011, 1:03 am

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Gosh... who are you talking to? Right now there are 45 MILLION people in the US without medical insurance... and many millions also have crappy catastrophic insurance. When they get sick... they go to the emergency room at the nearest hospital. They NEVER go to doctors unless they are desperately ill... then they go to the emergency room. We ALL pay for those visits, and it drives the cost of our insurance through the roof. People that are below poverty line will not have to pay. But the whole purpose is to get people to go to doctors BEFORE they are desperately ill. And then the emergency rooms of America will not be dealing with people in crisis who haven't seen a doctor in ten years.

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20 Jan 2011, 1:04 am

Verdandi wrote:

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Well its not just people who oppose it who say that, those who support it even say there would be a fine....I mean I certainly hope not but evidence seems to point to it.

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20 Jan 2011, 1:05 am

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Online Asperger's test are fine and all that, but not accepted as a diagnosis by Social Security, psychiatrists, and the Deparrtment of Rehabilitation.

If you have the papers does the government give you extra money, or money before 65? Is it a "disability?"

"Department of Rehabilitation?" Maybe in the old Soviet Union there was such a department, but surely not in America?

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20 Jan 2011, 1:14 am

tall-p wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

I am perfectly aware of that, I am one of those people who can't afford health insurance of any kind...which is unfortunate because I might need to look into getting an anti-anxiety presciption. But its possible I heard wrong....I just thought if there would be a fine for not having that plan then everyone would have to pay it even if someone simply cannot afford it.

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