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16 Feb 2011, 9:23 am

Are these supposed to be for kids? I'm supposed to have aspergers / autism and have no interest in playing with toys, that's a kids thing. I think I stim a lot but I really don't see the need to spend money on toys specifically for this. Anyone thinking the same thing?



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16 Feb 2011, 9:30 am

It's called making money.

If I can capitalize on a parent's anxiety regarding their autistic child, tweak a few toys and call them "good for autistics", why not make a profit?


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16 Feb 2011, 10:05 am

Yep. The goal of capitalism is to make money off of anything and everything. They would sell your own house to you if they could. Greedy bastards.
I don't like the idea of capitalism because of instances like these. It is "another" reason I lean left.



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16 Feb 2011, 10:15 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
It's called making money.

If I can capitalize on a parent's anxiety regarding their autistic child, tweak a few toys and call them "good for autistics", why not make a profit?


I have bought a fair number of stim toys for my daughter but I bought them at toy stores or the toy section of Target. I wanted to see if the toys specifically labled "for autistic kids" would be any different than what I bought so I googled.


Yikes!! !! !! I found plenty of websites selling "toys for autistic children" and they were the exact same things I had bought for my daughter but 50$-200$ more expensive. It was a truly horrific mark-up. These parents should walk into the toy section of Target one day. They could fill their autistic child's toy shelf for about 1,000$ less than whatever they paid (asuming they bought multiple toys). The only difference would be there would be no "for autistic children" label on the box. It turns out to be a very expensive label.

Below is a toy for 219$ from an autism toy website. Or you could go to Target and get it for about 35$.



www.enablingdevices.com/catalog/toys_fo ... ring-wheel



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16 Feb 2011, 10:48 am

Janissy wrote:
Below is a toy for 219$ from an autism toy website. Or you could go to Target and get it for about 35$.



www.enablingdevices.com/catalog/toys_fo ... ring-wheel


It's criminal, if you ask me.


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16 Feb 2011, 11:04 am

Adamantus wrote:
Are these supposed to be for kids?

Yes. If you are a grown up it's more likely you'll be interested in grown up toys like motorbikes, hang gliders and chainsaws. :)



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16 Feb 2011, 11:08 am

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chainsaws. :)


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And anything prone to rapid combustion

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16 Feb 2011, 11:14 am

Seriously? Because even when I was a kid I'd have said that stuff is about as interesting as dirt. Less even, there's some very interesting dirt out there. Man, if I'd been given stuff like that as a kid instead of a box full of Legos I'd have been booooored senseless.



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16 Feb 2011, 11:30 am

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there's some very interesting dirt out there


LOL. Yes. Some dirt is very interesting. :lol: :lol:


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16 Feb 2011, 2:39 pm

I am so glad to see someone talk about this! I am the parent of an autism/aspergers adult and I have a toy store for people with autism!

I started mine 6 years ago - before anyone even thought of spectrum people having the right to have fun and not just therapy to make them "normal". I also wanted to sell stuff that was hard to find, priced cheaply enough for people to be able to buy, and was for all ages - even adults. (I do not sell baby stuff - the same baby stuff for NTs works for auties and aspies as long as you pay attention to what they like!)

I also wanted a site that was therapy/cure/ broken-people/puzzle-free out of respect for all of you. (When I shop for clothes or shoes at fat lady stores online I don't want to see diet ads or something saying that this item will make me seem thinner or hide fat!)

I think everyone deserves fun at home, at school and at work. Parents and teachers can sometimes forget that. In my six years I have given away lots of products and lost money instead of making a profit. I, too, absolutely hate the companies that charge outrageously and pretend to help parents pick "educational" toys. (Read my article at my site where I rant about all toys being educational...)

Not all people with autism want or need special toys - but some do. I also try to have a convenient site for selecting a few items for common special interests. I also have done little things like use whole number prices so I am not tricky with $2.99 instead of $3.

Please support my efforts - all profits (if I ever get any) will go directly to autistic people themselves and to my son's care. Thanks for reading - I know this is too long but I am passionate about giving ASD people a better life - at least a little!

Proudly naming my site even though it may be against the forum rules - OZMO!



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16 Feb 2011, 3:04 pm

I dont own any autism toys. My favorite thing to stim with is buying Fire agate on ebay, Once i get it home i usually always carry it. :pig:


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16 Feb 2011, 3:24 pm

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I am so glad to see someone talk about this! I am the parent of an autism/aspergers adult and I have a toy store for people with autism!

I started mine 6 years ago - before anyone even thought of spectrum people having the right to have fun and not just therapy to make them "normal". I also wanted to sell stuff that was hard to find, priced cheaply enough for people to be able to buy, and was for all ages - even adults. (I do not sell baby stuff - the same baby stuff for NTs works for auties and aspies as long as you pay attention to what they like!)

I also wanted a site that was therapy/cure/ broken-people/puzzle-free out of respect for all of you. (When I shop for clothes or shoes at fat lady stores online I don't want to see diet ads or something saying that this item will make me seem thinner or hide fat!)

I think everyone deserves fun at home, at school and at work. Parents and teachers can sometimes forget that. In my six years I have given away lots of products and lost money instead of making a profit. I, too, absolutely hate the companies that charge outrageously and pretend to help parents pick "educational" toys. (Read my article at my site where I rant about all toys being educational...)

Not all people with autism want or need special toys - but some do. I also try to have a convenient site for selecting a few items for common special interests. I also have done little things like use whole number prices so I am not tricky with $2.99 instead of $3.

Please support my efforts - all profits (if I ever get any) will go directly to autistic people themselves and to my son's care. Thanks for reading - I know this is too long but I am passionate about giving ASD people a better life - at least a little!

Proudly naming my site even though it may be against the forum rules - OZMO!


So you don't take a rubber ball, paint a weird stripe on it, call it an "autism spacial stimulation orb" and charge $99 for it?


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16 Feb 2011, 3:45 pm

Hey, playing with toys isn't just a kids thing! :D

All for kids, a lot of it is just making money out of parents who think their children need all this special stuff...because normal toys are for normal kids??...which is sad, but dear god it's true - the part about mark-up not about autistic kids not being able to have normal toys.

I thought I was going to get a step-sister with severe autism, it's how I actually ended up coming across asperger's, I went looking for toys for her to keep her from wrecking the living room, lol. I went looking for crafty toys, colourful sensory toys, etc. but looking at a lot of the toys aimed at autistic kids just seem unnecessary, and expensive, but people buy them.


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16 Feb 2011, 4:07 pm

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So you don't take a rubber ball, paint a weird stripe on it, call it an "autism spacial stimulation orb" and charge $99 for it?


Sorry. Got that wrong.

That would be a "kinetically self directed autism spacial stimulation orb". The kinetically self directed feature adds $30 to the price so it comes to $129

My bad.


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16 Feb 2011, 4:10 pm

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So you don't take a rubber ball, paint a weird stripe on it, call it an "autism spacial stimulation orb" and charge $99 for it?


Sorry. Got that wrong.

That would be a "kinetically self directed autism spacial stimulation orb". The kinetically self directed feature adds $30 to the price so it comes to $129

My bad.



The deluxe version comes with gravity assisted braking. Call for pricing.


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16 Feb 2011, 4:41 pm

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wavefreak58 wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:

So you don't take a rubber ball, paint a weird stripe on it, call it an "autism spacial stimulation orb" and charge $99 for it?


Sorry. Got that wrong.

That would be a "kinetically self directed autism spacial stimulation orb". The kinetically self directed feature adds $30 to the price so it comes to $129

My bad.



The deluxe version comes with gravity assisted braking. Call for pricing.


I'll buy 50! Where do I call?