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01 Mar 2011, 2:48 pm

i asked this question on the members only,but no one answered me.does bill gates and mark zuckerberg actualy has asperger or some other ppd.diagnosed officialy or otherwise.do they see them selves as aspies or auties.or does the autstic culture media diagnos everyone famous who is good with computers as having some type of ppd



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01 Mar 2011, 3:31 pm

Some autistic people are obsessed with celebrity diagnosis for some reason. I think with Bill Gates it was Temple Grandin who started the speculation, because she's seen videos of him rocking. But if he has a diagnosis, he's not telling anyone.


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01 Mar 2011, 3:35 pm

I can see the connection with Zuckerberg. I caught an interview with him before the Oscars and it was so awkward that it actually reminded me of myself.


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01 Mar 2011, 4:41 pm

thats what i thought overzealous media diagnosis.some people on this site talk like there sure that this or that person has aspergers.



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01 Mar 2011, 4:46 pm

Neither have officially been dx'd. Most of us in high-tech would NEVER consider a dx as our world is all about spectrum behavior and we are all well compensated so nothing to worry about. I think we (generally)_ only get dx'd when we crash and burn as a result of our Aspergers. For me personally, this happened after my Father died this past summer and I could not function in any meaningful way for a very long while due to hyper processing and executive function abilities. My shrink saw autism loud and clear as my issue. Others simply get depressed or exhausted and crash and burn that way. Then we get a label to go with our nice jobs. :D



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01 Mar 2011, 5:10 pm

kfisherx wrote:
I think we (generally)_ only get dx'd when we crash and burn as a result of our Aspergers.


Or we get diagnosed with something like depression + PTSD + social phobia + social anxiety or maybe avoidant personality disorder.

On the other hand, if things had just gone slightly different, I probably would have been considered just an extreme introvert.


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01 Mar 2011, 5:45 pm

sorry to hear about your dad.my father died in may of a anurism i know it can be hard.i respect self diagnosis,and if gates and zberg see themselves as auties or aspies that fine.it just seems the autistic media diagnsoses anyone famous who s good with a computer.when i was 13 a social worker pulles me out of school to see rain man in the theatre.she was just a sw and did not what aspergers was,back then.it took 3 more years for a phd to make a dx.if you dont know the person,thats less reliable



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01 Mar 2011, 5:46 pm

What is the "autistic media"?? I've never heard of it.


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01 Mar 2011, 5:58 pm

anbuend wrote:
What is the "autistic media"?? I've never heard of it.
there ist one i know of.i was just talking about people who have all these theories about famous people and aspergers.the talk you hear on forums and what you read in books etc...



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01 Mar 2011, 7:31 pm

Neither Bill nor Mark have ever claimed Asgergers and I suspect they do not give a damn about it either.

Just a bunch of speculation about it from what I can tell.

Like I said, we high-tech folks have as high as a 30% Asperger Ratio but most are undiagnosed and most don't even care. We have our own culture in our companies and communities and we live just fine. Until we crash and burn that is... :)



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02 Mar 2011, 4:40 am

vermontsavant wrote:
Mark Zuckerberg


I can not relate Mark Zuckerberg to autism - socially awkward is not autism. He ticks a couple of points (and is severe on the ones that he does tick) but he doesn't seem to meet the diagnostic criteria - http://www.autreat.com/dsm4-aspergers.html

In particular, he seems to have a highly developed empathy and acute awareness of (and ability to manipulate) the emotional states of others, combined with a strong urge to seek pleasure through relationships.