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23 Feb 2010, 10:45 pm

On alot of my topics I've seen some people mention they don't speak much. I can't even fathom not talking much! Just WOW! As other Aspies I tend to say the wrong thing so sometimes I think the silent treatment might be good aswell but I have NO IDEA how to train myself how to do this!! ! LOL! and also there's the question of WHY do some of you keep quiet/silent?



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23 Feb 2010, 10:56 pm

It's possible that it's just part of my genetic personality. It's also possible that the physical and verbal and emotional abuses of my childhood whenever I would speak my mind caused a stunting of that particular growth. In other words, I may not directly think that I'm going to be kicked for speaking out of turn, but subconsciously I may have just learned that I should not do so. I'm not sure which it is, possibly a bit of both. But if I trust someone a lot, and the subject is something that really fascinates me, then I will talk what seems to be a normal amount. But rarely would you find anyone that knows I can talk a lot, that's all. :)


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23 Feb 2010, 11:01 pm

I like the Buddhist rules for "right speech", which involve asking yourself before you say anything whether it is (1) true, (2) necessary, and (3) kind. It sounds like a lot of what you say isn't necessary, and from what you posted about aggravating your sister not all of your speech is kind, either.

Personally, I have found that the less information I give people about myself the less power they have over me. Silence equals freedom, at least in some contexts.



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23 Feb 2010, 11:08 pm

I have many reasons....although today I've been posting quite a bit.

* I'm afraid of saying something dumb

* I can't organize my thoughts or have too many thoughts

* I'm afraid of hurting someone's feelings

* I can't think of anything to say

* Sometimes I just want to read posts rather than respond.



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23 Feb 2010, 11:09 pm

Better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.


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23 Feb 2010, 11:13 pm

When I was younger I would be silent or talk your ears off.. changing topics every 30 seconds. After years of putting my foot in my mouth, I tend not to talk much.


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23 Feb 2010, 11:14 pm

I don't keep quiet, I am quiet.

I don't think people choose to be quiet or loud or talkative. I also don't believe you can train yourself to be different from your natural personality type.

I don't choose not to speak, I really have nothing to say and I don't notice things. If there is something I am very interested in, or very knowledgeable about, I can talk about it or ask questions about it, but most of the time, I don't have any interest in the things most people talk about, and I don't notice most social cues, so I have nothing to talk about.

It's like how some people can go on vacation to a place and talk nonstop for days about their vacation after they return, and everybody wants hear about what they saw, what they did, etc. I don't. If I want to go there, I'll go there myself. If I want to learn about a place, I'll pick up a book or research it on the net. For me, the only experience, is to actually experience something or some place. I just don't get anything out of talking about things, and see no point to it.



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23 Feb 2010, 11:16 pm

I didn't care to associate with anyone for many years. I just didn't see anything good coming from it. I at least apply the first 2 principles that arielhawksquill posted. That said, most people seem to be incredibly stupid and need 70% of a conversation to be regurgitated fluff or else they don't understand anything.

A few seconds of silent observation can eliminate the need for minutes of conversation. Conversely, if a wise man speaks to a large audience, nobody hears a meaning.


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23 Feb 2010, 11:19 pm

arielhawksquill wrote:
I like the Buddhist rules for "right speech", which involve asking yourself before you say anything whether it is (1) true, (2) necessary, and (3) kind. It sounds like a lot of what you say isn't necessary, and from what you posted about aggravating your sister not all of your speech is kind, either.

Personally, I have found that the less information I give people about myself the less power they have over me. Silence equals freedom, at least in some contexts.



Interesting. Well as others I'm rude and I just speak from my mind which comes off as rude/wrong etc. as many other Aspies do. :-) Your speech rules reminded me of rules to remember stuff it has to be 1)Believable 2)Important 3) True (learned that in Psychology class) :-)



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23 Feb 2010, 11:25 pm

M_p_furo wrote:
I have many reasons....although today I've been posting quite a bit.

* I'm afraid of saying something dumb

* I can't organize my thoughts or have too many thoughts

* I'm afraid of hurting someone's feelings

* I can't think of anything to say

* Sometimes I just want to read posts rather than respond.

Basically this. I am a quiet person, mostly because I just don't have anything to say. (or anything that people want to hear)


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23 Feb 2010, 11:51 pm

modes include:

Silence, either for self-defence OR nothing to say OR can't get an edge into the conversation

Lecturing while others edge their way out of the room EITHER on a non-sensitive topic OR to the few poerceived to be receptive.

Talking [not lecturing] while others do not listen.

I keep quiet a lot, when I speak it is on a need-to-know bassis - except to my inmost group.

If you see me at the back of the room, mouth shut, do not assume it is because I have notyhing to say.



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24 Feb 2010, 12:38 am

I am not particularly talkative by nature. Whenever I do speak, my words are usually quite direct and rather blunt. I don't care for extraneous information from others nor do I wish to inundate them with what I consider unnecessary details. :shrug:


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24 Feb 2010, 12:55 am

Because I don't know what to say. If I know something for sure, like if a teacher asks a question in class and I know the answer, I'll answer it. In this case, I know that it's okay to speak up and I know exactly what to say. If I'm in a social situation, there can often be many possibilites. If the conversation is very straightforward and I understand and process everything that is being said, then I'll be very active. if I have formulated a plan I can stick to in order to fulfill a certain purpose, and I know that everything would be under my control, I can also be very active and outspoken. Other than that, I often become confused in social situations, or need more time to process things that are fired at me at a rapid rate, so I don't speak up. I try to avoid these situations as much as possible, and would rather spend my time alone.


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24 Feb 2010, 1:55 am

By the time my thoughts have congealed into words, the conversation (if it's more than 1 other person, which is maybe that's why I like 1-on-1 so much better) has moved onto some other subject. I also always have trouble finding the "on-ramp" moments to inject my words.

Other times speaking just feels too much mental "heaving lifting." Like if I'm driving I can hear, but not verbally respond, or else my driving gets really unsafe. I used to have the energy to multi-task those, but for some reason speech sucks up a huge amount of energy and attention, and I can't do it anymore. Some days it's like that even if I'm not driving.

And at other times speaking feels sort of "discombobulating" (er, for lack of a better term...). Sort of, if my mood is on edge doing it feels like how listening to a circular saw or a vacuum makes me feel. Hard to explain.

My mother is a talker, though. She said as a kid her brother and mother would constantly tell her not to immediately say whatever popped into her head. I think some people are just wired that way. :wink: She always ends up having odd but really interesting conversations with people.



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24 Feb 2010, 2:18 am

Metal_Man wrote:
Better to be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.


I love that quote


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24 Feb 2010, 3:46 am

Because I don't have anything to say.