Penn and Teller on Vaccinations and Autism

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15 Aug 2010, 2:48 am

I always liked Penn and Teller and regularly watch their Showtime show "BS," and now i just love them even more. Everyone here who gets Showtime should watch their latest episode on vaccinations. Did anyone else see it? Since most of you are well-educated on the topic, you probably won't learn anything new... But it's nice to see that they're on our side here and spreading knowledge that vaccines DO NOT cause autism. They did their research here, too. They covered the fact that diagnostic criteria have gotten wider, that the hyped up autism "treatments" out there don't work, the whole Jenny McCarthy thing... It was just very cool to see the reasonable side of this issue presented on tv for a change.



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15 Aug 2010, 3:11 am

ColdBlooded wrote:
I always liked Penn and Teller and regularly watch their Showtime show "BS," and now i just love them even more. Everyone here who gets Showtime should watch their latest episode on vaccinations. Did anyone else see it? Since most of you are well-educated on the topic, you probably won't learn anything new... But it's nice to see that they're on our side here and spreading knowledge that vaccines DO NOT cause autism. They did their research here, too. They covered the fact that diagnostic criteria have gotten wider, that the hyped up autism "treatments" out there don't work, the whole Jenny McCarthy thing... It was just very cool to see the reasonable side of this issue presented on tv for a change.



There is a such thing as vaccine injury but I think it's a fairly uncommon thing.

It's more dangerous than not not to vaccinate your children. You not only subject them to the possibility of contracting life threatening illnesses, but you put at risk those individuals who really can't have the vaccination for medically documented reasons.



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15 Aug 2010, 5:51 am

I just love Penn & Teller

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15 Aug 2010, 5:51 am

Yeah, there's a guy down the road and he has a LICENSE, see, a license to sell me BEER. And you know what, he makes a PROFIT on that beer! FOLLOW THE MONEY!! :roll:



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15 Aug 2010, 6:35 am

Penn and Teller are Las Vegas comedians. Anything they say about anything must be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. Their MO is to offend. I did like the recycling and the bottled wate episodes though.

Remember that P&T ARE NOT a news source.


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15 Aug 2010, 6:41 am

What channel are they on, and what time?


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15 Aug 2010, 8:14 am

I enjoyed that episode. It's nice to see something besides the quack doctors and the parents who "just know" vaccines are harmful. I wish that mainstream news would cover this issue in a rational manner. And yes, there are injuries associated with vaccines, compared to other medical interventions they are exceedingly small, especially in vaccines that have been around for as long as MMR has.

Also, am I the only one who thought that anti-vaxx doctor looked like Voldemort?



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15 Aug 2010, 8:30 am

Is it on You Tube?


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15 Aug 2010, 8:53 am

In most cases, autism comes from the parents themselves. People are autistic from birth, but it might not be obvious so its easy to blame other things such as vaccines. Even though there are a lot of autistic people out there, there are even more that aren't who took the same vaccine.

But there are drugs and chemicals that can cause autism in-utero while a woman is pregnant. I forget what they are, but they are fairly well documented.



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15 Aug 2010, 9:15 am

PunkyKat wrote:
Is it on You Tube?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJuf6G5P2_s[/youtube]



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15 Aug 2010, 9:23 am

Celoneth wrote:
I enjoyed that episode. It's nice to see something besides the quack doctors and the parents who "just know" vaccines are harmful. I wish that mainstream news would cover this issue in a rational manner. And yes, there are injuries associated with vaccines, compared to other medical interventions they are exceedingly small, especially in vaccines that have been around for as long as MMR has...


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Agree 100%.



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15 Aug 2010, 9:51 am

thechadmaster wrote:
Penn and Teller are Las Vegas comedians. Anything they say about anything must be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. Their MO is to offend. I did like the recycling and the bottled wate episodes though.

Remember that P&T ARE NOT a news source.


+1

They are spot on about some things, but I've seen them do stories on stuff where they are way off.

They were harsh on critics of GM foods (genetically modified) and made them look like idiots. Yes, the people they spoke to were idiots, but there are many negatives bundled into the GM market. Among them are....

1. Built in pesticides...nice for protecting crops, but ultimately YOU AND I ingest this poison. Poison in small amounts, taken long enough as documented consequences. Spray on pesticides can be washed off. Genetically coded toxins can't be washed off.

2. Crop dominance. GM crops contaminate indigenous crops. They destroy many indigenous plants in the areas they are planted, and since they are designed to be non-heirloom seed bearing, you have to keep buying the GM seed to plant every season. Great for the maker of the seed, but it ultimately means the farmer has no option if he can't pay the price. Indigenous crop seed is long destroyed by then.

3. Manufacturer thuggery. Makers of GM crop products aggressively protect their patents. Problem is that GM crops "cross pollinate" with other non-GM crops. Courts have ruled that if ANY genetic material is in your crop, it's a violation of the maker's patent and you are liable...for something NATURE does automatically and can't be prevented.

This is just some of the hidden evils of GM foods. Yes, it's nice that these GM crops can feed thousands more than natural crops, but at what hidden cost does it come with?



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15 Aug 2010, 10:15 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
What channel are they on, and what time?

Its been airing on The Movie Network and Movie Central but its just showing season 7 right now



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15 Aug 2010, 10:40 am

Yes, saw it liked it.


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15 Aug 2010, 11:02 am

jmnixon95 wrote:
PunkyKat wrote:
Is it on You Tube?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJuf6G5P2_s[/youtube]


Is that the whole thing they are usually three parts and they have a little skit at the beginning related to the issue.


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15 Aug 2010, 11:46 am

PunkyKat wrote:
jmnixon95 wrote:
PunkyKat wrote:
Is it on You Tube?


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJuf6G5P2_s[/youtube]


Is that the whole thing they are usually three parts and they have a little skit at the beginning related to the issue.


This is not the actual episode if it what your asking PunkyKat.
This is some kind of pod cast.

For those who missed it or want to see it you can find the episode here below.
Pen and Teller BS Torrent <--- click


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