What are your scores? I'm creating a prediction calc.

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Hello, the purpose of this thread is to gather score information from various online tests and use that to create an 'aspergers prediction formula' that would calculate the probability that someone has aspergers. I plan on hosting this "aspergers probability calculator" on my web server as a contribution to the community. With this formula, many of the people who come in here wondering if they have aspergers or some form of autism could take the tests from this list of tests, input the scores they got from the tests, and see what their likelihood of having aspergers is. This would be more accurate than the current 'aspie' and 'AQ' test because this formula would take into account many different tests, instead of just one or two, which would give you a far more understandable score (A percentage rather than a not-so-clear AQ number.).

Please let me know your
-Age
-Your highest level of education
-Gender
-Your official diagnosis (Or 'neurotypical' if you suspect you don't have a form of autism.)

So that I can control these variables in making the prediction formula, so that the calculator can make more accurate predictions.

Here are the list of the core tests that seem like they would be most associated with aspergers (If you've taken any of the below tests and don't want to take anymore, feel free to post your scores!); They are arranged in the order of how closely associated they are with aspergers, with the most closely associated tests as the top:


AQ test - http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html

The "Aspie"/"Neurotypical" test - http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php

The Systemizer / Empathizer test - http://eqsq.com/eq-sq-tests/

Emotional Intelligence test - http://www.queendom.com/tests/access_pa ... gTest=1121

Aspergers test (Follows the DSM manual quite closely) - http://slshealth.com/behavioral_info/se ... p?CatID=58

Highly sensitive person test - http://www.hsperson.com/pages/test.htm










And here are miscellaneous tests that seem like they wouldn't be highly correlated with aspergers, but possibly could be, depending on what the results and statistical analysis shows! If they are highly correlated with possessing aspergers, then I'll add them to the "core tests" list.

MBTI personality test - http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp









And here were older tests that were shown to have little correlation with aspergers, and so there's no more desire for data to be gathered from them.

Facial memory test - http://www.faceblind.org/facetests/fgcf ... _intro.php

Raven's progressive matrices / Nonverbal IQ test - http://iqtest.dk/main.swf

Verbal IQ test - http://psychologytoday.tests.psychtests ... gTest=1331 (This one seems rather long; If anyone knows of any shorter vocabulary or verbal IQ tests, please let me know.)

Facial recognition - http://glennrowe.net/BaronCohen/Faces/EyesTest.aspx

Here's the thread where the ongoing analysis is being conducted: http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts158261-highlight.html

Last edited by swbluto on 17 Apr 2011, 3:36 pm, edited 14 times in total.

What about a MBTI test?

In this post, I'm going to share anything related to the above, including the construction of the formula, any information justifying the above tests or any theory behind the analysis of the information and construction of the prediction formula.

Basically, for the construction of the formula, I'm going to use linear algebra and the test results to determine the weighting coefficients for the prediction formula. A high weighting coefficient indicates the particular test is highly predictive of possessing an ASD, whereas a low weighting coefficient indicates a test that wouldn't be highly predictive of possessing an ASD.

The reason why I chose to include a nonverbal IQ and verbal IQ test was to determine if there is an association between those sub-test IQs and the results on the other tests (Such as the mind-reading test), as it's suspected that someone with a higher nonverbal IQ would be better at recognizing facial expressions, everything else being equal. There could also be a similar relationship between nonverbal IQ or verbal IQ and the other subtests - this depends on what the statistical analysis shows. Also, the relationship between the difference between verbal and nonverbal IQ will be explored, as it's suspected that a nonverbal IQ higher than ones verbal IQ wouldn't as associated with autism as it would with being neurotypical, and a higher verbal IQ / nonverbal IQ difference might be more associated with aspergers.

I'm also aware of the "Set of scientific tests" thread at http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt113459.html, but that's missing some of the critical controlling variables that are needed for making a highly precise formula. Though, I might go over there and just guesstimate on an individual basis or an average for those needed variables if I don't have enough data.

Last edited by swbluto on 11 Apr 2011, 7:49 pm, edited 5 times in total.

Good idea! I've added a MBTI test to the list.

Age: 23
Highest level of education: Senior in college.
Gender: Male
Official diagnosis: Neurotypical, though being a hypochondriac would make me more accurately neuro-atypical, I guess.

Facial recognition: 28
Raven's progressive matrices / Nonverbal IQ test: 125
Verbal IQ test: 110
Aspergers test: 10 / 30
AQ test: 32
The "Aspie"/"Neurotypical" test: 100 Aspie / 105 Neurotypical
Facial memory test: 72% correct (80% correct is average.)

Highly sensitive person test: <Haven't taken yet>

The Systemizer / Empathizer test: <Haven't taken yet>

Emotional Intelligence test: 106 (68th percentile) [Hmmm... interesting. I purchased the full report because I was curious how I would've performed on "emotional facial recognition", and the "general emotional IQ" suddenly jumped upto 122; Apparently 106 was for the "self report component", whatever that is. Anyway, interestingly, my "Emotional Insightful" IQ is 152 (Really?) and "Emotional recognition" IQ is 135 while the "ability component" is 128. This would seem to directly imply I definitely don't have aspergers... if I trusted the results. If that's case, then why do I unintentionally piss people off so much? Expressive language deficits, I presume. That is, the concept or set of concepts I'm expressing don't intrinsically piss off others, but the way that those concepts are converted into words and sentences do. -- Hmmm, apparently the "self report" component refers to the questions where you rate your own abilities, and the "ability" component refers to the questions where your actual abilities are exercised and tested.)

MBTI personality test: INTP (100% I, 100% N, 100% T, 40% J / 60% P)

Last edited by swbluto on 13 Apr 2011, 12:24 am, edited 5 times in total.

Why bother when these tests do this anyway? particulary the aspie quiz, which I got about 170/200 on.

Please let me know your
-Age 17
-Your highest level of education Almost finished with high school
-Gender Male
-Your official diagnosis I have no official diagnosis, but I would be extremely surprised to find that I'm not an aspie.

Facial recognition - http://glennrowe.net/BaronCohen/Faces/EyesTest.aspx
17/36

Raven's progressive matrices / Nonverbal IQ test - http://iqtest.dk/main.swf
115, but only because I did not finish it. I could have done better.

Verbal IQ test - http://psychologytoday.tests.psychtests ... gTest=1331 (This one seems rather long; If anyone knows of any shorter vocabulary or verbal IQ tests, please let me know.)
93

AQ test - http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html
39

The "Aspie"/"Neurotypical" test - http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php
Aspie: 134
NT: 56

Facial memory test - http://www.faceblind.org/facetests/fgcf ... _intro.php
49%

And here are miscellaneous tests that seem like they wouldn't be highly correlated with aspergers, but possibly could be, depending on what the results and statistical analysis shows! If they are highly correlated with possessing aspergers, then I'll add them to the "core tests" list.

Highly sensitive person test - http://www.hsperson.com/pages/test.htm
20

The Systemizer / Empathizer test - http://eqsq.com/eq-sq-tests/
10 empathizer 96 systemizer - extreme systemizing

Emotional Intelligence test - http://www.queendom.com/tests/access_pa ... gTest=1121
55

MBTI personality test - http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp
INTJ 89%, 38%, 100%, 33%

Last edited by SammichEater on 11 Apr 2011, 7:57 pm, edited 9 times in total.

For those who "score near the extremes", you can safely assume you're probably aspie, but for those who tend to score near the middle which isn't that telling, a prediction calculator would be highly valuable. Also, a lot of the new users who ask if they possess aspergers tend to be the type that score towards the middle, so it isn't "really obvious" if they have aspergers or not (Like in my case.) and they tend to be left uncertain.

Also, in the case of the Aspie quiz, no one *really* knows how good it is at predicting the possession of aspergers. It's usually just simply assumed, which isn't necessarily correct. By statistically analyzing the results from the various tests and comparing it to those who have been officially diagnosed, it can be found out "how good" a particular test is at predicting aspergers. When you know how good / predictive the various tests are, you can take all of their results into account and calculate the likelihood you actually have aspergers (Which would be heaps load less expensive than getting a full psychiatric evaluation.). And using many different tests is better than using one at telling if you have aspergers.

Last edited by swbluto on 11 Apr 2011, 7:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Age: 16
Education: Still in High School
Gender: Male
With Asperger's (not official, but the doctor said I most likely have it (still waiting for a neurologist))


Facial recognition - 50%

Raven's progressive matrices / Nonverbal IQ test - 110 (which is weird, because I got into Mensa, which requires >130 (I think I do worse on a computer))

Verbal IQ test - 98 (47 percentile)

AQ test - 36

The "Aspie"/"Neurotypical" test:
AS: 174
NT: 27

Facial memory test - 69%

Highly sensitive person test - 20

The Systemizer / Empathizer test:
SQ: 96
EQ: 7

Emotional Intelligence test - 63 (1 percentile)

MBTI personality test - INTJ/INTP, it changes

Last edited by PurpleTrapezoid on 11 Apr 2011, 10:45 pm, edited 3 times in total.

are you some kind of researcher or postgrad looking for info?

Nope, just a really curious mathematically inclined college senior. (I'm studying computer science.)

Age : 24
Education : High School
Gender : Male
Aspergers

Eye recognition - 19 but could have been 21 because I got the right answers in my head but doubted them and answered wrong on the test for the first couple of eyes.

Raven's : 97

Verbal : 139

AQ : 39

Facial recognition : 79 percent

Aspie : 130 out of 200 NT : 74 of 200

Empathasizer : 14
Systemizer : 72

Last edited by NathanealWest on 12 Apr 2011, 10:56 pm, edited 3 times in total.

-Age: 17

-Your highest level of education: High School

-Gender: I assume you mean sex, so...female. (I'm sorry- the way people use gender and sex interchangeably escapes my mind sometimes).

-Your official diagnosis: Currently highly suspected by a teacher who has dealt with autistic students and a counselor who has as well as having Aspergers. About to enter the diagnostic track when my family is stable enough to handle it.

Facial recognition - 21 (then again, I had an obsession with drawing faces/eyes when I was little, so my value here is artificially gained, I guess.)

Raven's progressive matrices / Nonverbal IQ test - 96

Verbal IQ test - 114

Aspergers test (Follows the DSM manual quite closely) - 33/39

AQ test - 36

The "Aspie"/"Neurotypical" test -

Aspie: 166/200
Neurotypical: 40/200

Facial memory test - 64%

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Will get to these in a minute or five:

Highly sensitive person test - 20

The Systemizer / Empathizer test - (Took this one a few weeks ago- should still apply to me, but when I have the time I'll retake it.)

EQ - 14
SQ - 110

Emotional Intelligence test - (This test takes ages, so I'm going to try and remember my previous score until I get enough off of me to be able to take it again)

Emotional Score: ? (Really, really, really low, though- maybe 50s-60s?)
Percentile: .5

MBTI personality test - INTJ

Last edited by gen-ph on 12 Apr 2011, 12:29 am, edited 5 times in total.

Wow, with the time required to take all these tests it is no wonder that you're not getting 'full' responses. Seeing as I'm unemployed I have nothing but time.
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-Age >> 47
-Your highest level of education >> some college (1 year)
-Gender >> Male
-Your official diagnosis (Or 'neurotypical' if you suspect you don't have a form of autism.) >> I have no official diagnosis but my own research is leading me to believe that I am HFA with Schizoid Personality Disorder
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THE TEST SCORES:

A) Facial recognition - score: 28

B) Raven's progressive matrices / Nonverbal IQ test - 130

C) Verbal IQ test - 141

D) AQ test - 39

E) The "Aspie"/"Neurotypical" test -
Aspie score: 159 of 200
neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 56 of 200

F) Facial memory test - 86% correct

G) Highly sensitive person test - 15 of the items are true for me

H) The Systemizer / Empathizer test - EQ = 27 and SQ = 107 (Extreme Systemizing)

i) Emotional Intelligence test - 111
Subscale percentile = 79

J) MBTI personality test -
moderately expressed introvert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed thinking personality
moderately expressed judging personality
TYPE - INTJ
Introverted - 44
Intuitive - 50
Thinking - 25
Judging - 56

Last edited by Dinosaw on 14 Apr 2011, 9:46 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Age: 41
Education: Some College
Gender: Female
Diagnosis: Self-diagnosed AS

Facial recognition - 85%

Raven's progressive matrices / Nonverbal IQ test - 129

Verbal IQ test - 138

Aspergers test (Follows the DSM manual quite closely) - 27

AQ test - 40

The "Aspie"/"Neurotypical" test - 156/62

Facial memory test - 52%

Highly sensitive person test - 23

The Systemizer / Empathizer test - SQ 91 / EQ 18 (extreme systemizer)

Emotional Intelligence test - 78

-Age 25
-Your highest level of education high school
-Gender female
-Your official diagnosis Asperger's.

Facial recognition: 19
Nonverbal IQ: 99
Verbal IQ: (too long, didn't take, maybe later)
Asperger's test: 11 (I had a speech delay so it made it that low)
AQ test: 28 last time I took it, before that, 33
RDOS: 143 for AS and 59 for NT when I last took it which was the final version 2
Facial memory test: 69%
EQ: 18 when I last took it.
Highly Sensitive Person test: 7


Sorry I don't feel like taking some of these tests again.