Question about Socializing and Partying?

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16 May 2011, 10:39 am

I thought about Socializing, and I had this idea. What if people with Asperger's are not inherently not sociable, but they just dislike socializing with people with certain qualities, which includes most NTs? For example, I think that many Aspies dislike parties, alcohol, etc. and would for example rather talk about politics. The realities of high school life are such that most people just party and talk about alcohol and how cool that is, and this simply does not appeal to Aspies. Is that quite accurate? Furthermore, is my assumption about Aspies disliking parties true? Perhaps if everyone had Aspergers, then Aspergers would be just as sociable as NTs are now (well, more or less, on a different scale of course)



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16 May 2011, 10:52 am

With some of us, perhaps. I never did well socialising in the past because I didn't feel like I fit in or could relate to anyone.
I dislike parties, usually. I think you'll get some agreement there.


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16 May 2011, 10:59 am

Good theory.

I do like highly structured parties. With a set order of fun activities where there's a place for everyone and everything and everyone and everything is in his/her/its place.Which ended around age 8 unfortunately.



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16 May 2011, 11:01 am

I don't really like parties because they are crowded and usually there are people I don't know so it can make things a bit akward. Drinking helps though because I'm not as sensative to how crowded it is and I don't feel akward because of all the people I don't know......but as a rule I prefer to just chill with a few people, have a couple beers and maybe listen to some music and talk.



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16 May 2011, 11:03 am

While I generally dislike them, I try to find something there that I can enjoy. One tactic that works for me if I know lots of people (sometimes even when I don't), is to find a comfortable place to sit. Then I relax myself, and people can come talk to me if they want what I have to offer, deep conversation. I learned that imposing deep conversation on partiers often violates social rules.

Also, my favorite parties have drum circles. I like to drum, and can contribute something. I really enjoy the interplay between the drummers and the dancers, and even get up and dance when my hands get tired and I feel the groove.



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16 May 2011, 11:04 am

People with Aspergers do not like to socialise or interact with other people. Aspergers are anti-social and they do not really like people at all. Social events and parties are to be avoided by self conscious, introverted, shy awkward, anti-social people with Aspergers. Going to school and work is a huge drag for a person with Aspergers who is a social misfit and does not work well in groups.



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16 May 2011, 11:10 am

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
People with Aspergers do not like to socialise or interact with other people. Aspergers are anti-social and they do not really like people at all. Social events and parties are to be avoided by self conscious, introverted, shy awkward, anti-social people with Aspergers. Going to school and work is a huge drag for a person with Aspergers who is a social misfit and does not work well in groups.


and your point is? lol there are better places to troll then an autism/aspergers forum aren't there?



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16 May 2011, 11:14 am

A party with just aspies, how would that look I wonder.

My guess is that everyone would stand in a corner looking into open space :lol:



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16 May 2011, 11:15 am

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
People with Aspergers do not like to socialise or interact with other people. Aspergers are anti-social and they do not really like people at all. Social events and parties are to be avoided by self conscious, introverted, shy awkward, anti-social people with Aspergers. Going to school and work is a huge drag for a person with Aspergers who is a social misfit and does not work well in groups.


We don't have to enjoy the same things that NT-ish types do to find pleasure in the same settings. I try to use my Aspie cleverness to balance things out and enjoy my life as much as possible. Giving up never got me anywhere but depressed and frustrated.



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16 May 2011, 11:20 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
People with Aspergers do not like to socialise or interact with other people. Aspergers are anti-social and they do not really like people at all. Social events and parties are to be avoided by self conscious, introverted, shy awkward, anti-social people with Aspergers. Going to school and work is a huge drag for a person with Aspergers who is a social misfit and does not work well in groups.


We don't have to enjoy the same things that NT-ish types do to find pleasure in the same settings. I try to use my Aspie cleverness to balance things out and enjoy my life as much as possible. Giving up never got me anywhere but depressed and frustrated.


On that note.....its not that I nessisarly don't like to socialize or interact with others its more like I tend to fail at it, so social interaction can be unpleasent.



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16 May 2011, 11:25 am

NTs interact with people non verbal, freely express emotions/feelings, make small chit chat and have shallow interests unappealing to most people with Aspergers. Aspergers are regarded as being deep thinkers who do not like to talk about unimportant shallow interests that appeal mainly to NTs.

NTs are interested in gossiping and talking about nonsense that does not interest people with Aspergers who find NTs shallow information pointless.

To an NT an Aspie is regarded as an odd, weird, eccentric, boring loner who has no friends and is not worth talking to unless it is to use the Aspies unique skills for the NTs advantage.

Aspergers is a condition that more males have than females. A female with Aspergers is regarded as cold hearted. Females are expected by society to be emotional and show empathy towards other people. Society does not expect males to be as emotional as females.

A party with all Aspergers would more than likely be an online forum discussion or an online game where human interaction is minimal.



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16 May 2011, 11:33 am

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
NTs interact with people non verbal, freely express emotions/feelings, make small chit chat and have shallow interests unappealing to most people with Aspergers. Aspergers are regarded as being deep thinkers who do not like to talk about unimportant shallow interests that appeal mainly to NTs.

NTs are interested in gossiping and talking about nonsense that does not interest people with Aspergers who find NTs shallow information pointless.

To an NT an Aspie is regarded as an odd, weird, eccentric, boring loner who has no friends and is not worth talking to unless it is to use the Aspies unique skills for the NTs advantage.


That sounds like a broad generalization to me. Can you try to cut NT-ish people the same slack you'd like them to grant you?



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16 May 2011, 11:40 am

jrjones9933 wrote:
Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
NTs interact with people non verbal, freely express emotions/feelings, make small chit chat and have shallow interests unappealing to most people with Aspergers. Aspergers are regarded as being deep thinkers who do not like to talk about unimportant shallow interests that appeal mainly to NTs.

NTs are interested in gossiping and talking about nonsense that does not interest people with Aspergers who find NTs shallow information pointless.

To an NT an Aspie is regarded as an odd, weird, eccentric, boring loner who has no friends and is not worth talking to unless it is to use the Aspies unique skills for the NTs advantage.


That sounds like a broad generalization to me. Can you try to cut NT-ish people the same slack you'd like them to grant you?


I have a very bad habit of making broad generalizations. I pretend to know the answers to everything but I know absolutely nothing.



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16 May 2011, 11:42 am

I've never liked parties, but not because of the people that go to them. I just don't like the noise or feeling claustrophobic because everyone is so close together. Also, there is no structure, so I feel lost. I'm not sure what the point of parties is.

I like spending time with people 1 to 1, where we can have a proper conversation or do something interesting. :)



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16 May 2011, 11:45 am

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
NTs interact with people non verbal, freely express emotions/feelings, make small chit chat and have shallow interests unappealing to most people with Aspergers. Aspergers are regarded as being deep thinkers who do not like to talk about unimportant shallow interests that appeal mainly to NTs.

NTs are interested in gossiping and talking about nonsense that does not interest people with Aspergers who find NTs shallow information pointless.

To an NT an Aspie is regarded as an odd, weird, eccentric, boring loner who has no friends and is not worth talking to unless it is to use the Aspies unique skills for the NTs advantage.


That sounds like a broad generalization to me. Can you try to cut NT-ish people the same slack you'd like them to grant you?


I have a very bad habit of making broad generalizations. I pretend to know the answers to everything but I know absolutely nothing.


then why post?



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16 May 2011, 11:47 am

Dark_Lord_2008 wrote:
I have a very bad habit of making broad generalizations. I pretend to know the answers to everything but I know absolutely nothing.


Yeah, me too. I got kind of fixated on studying that behavior in myself after reading Robert Anton Wilson's The New Inquisition.