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23 May 2011, 12:42 pm

I aske someone today about autism and aspergers and they said "Autism is worse than Aspergers". The person i asked about this worked with autistic people in a home (apparently the autistic people she worked with could not talk) but is this a true statement? I know people say autism and aspergers are really the same but i think people with Autism are more OCD and routine bound than people with AS? Also she said that "Autism comes with more complications than aspergers"

I did tell the person about this website today but i hope for my sake she is not reading this thread :oops:



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23 May 2011, 12:45 pm

My understanding is that Asperger's is now defined as one of many manifestations of autism. Your friend may be referring to people on the other end of the autism spectrum who are lower functioning than people with Asperger's who are on the higher end of the autism spectrum.


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23 May 2011, 12:47 pm

Severe Asperger's is worse than mild autism.

I suspect that the person has too neatly categorized the autistic spectrum. Non-verbal autism is definitely more challenging. You can't have Apserger's and be non-verbal - this is the primary difference between the two. So I suspect that this person looks at the challenges of classic autism with its speech issues and calls this worse. But there are people that are HFA that have better outcomes that some with Asperger's.

Generalities are only of limited use. When people rely on them as absolutes, trouble ensues.


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23 May 2011, 12:50 pm

its not looking optimistic for me becuase i think i had a learning disability and spoke later as a toddler. so i might have proper autism /classic autism as opposed to aspergers or even HFA. If i am low functioning or mid functioning then it will be harder for me to live a normal life becuase i have problems with emotion.

Although one label which is on my records and which has been used for me in teh past is 'semantic pragmantic langauge disorder"





Wavefreak she did say that people with Autism just can't be around other people



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23 May 2011, 12:59 pm

Jamesy wrote:
its not looking optimistic for me becuase i think i had a learning disability and spoke later as a toddler. so i might have proper autism /classic autism as opposed to aspergers or even HFA. If i am low functioning or mid functioning then it will be harder for me to live a normal life becuase i have problems with emotion.

Although one label which is on my records and which has been used for me in teh past is 'semantic pragmantic langauge disorder"


You need to quit measuring your worth in terms of your autism


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Wavefreak she did say that people with Autism just can't be around other people


She needs to get out more. She is so invested in her corner of the autistic world that she's missing the big picture.


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23 May 2011, 1:03 pm

to be honest i don't like being around large groups of people even though i am interested in the outside world its hard for me to reach it.



what i don't want to do is have to live and be taken care for by my family for the rest of my life or be put in a residental home.


God i wish i had aspergers



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23 May 2011, 1:22 pm

You need to stop worrying about things that you can't control and start enjoying your life.


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23 May 2011, 1:22 pm

It is a spectrum.
Aspergers is thought of as a less version of autism. So by definition its less severe.
So its like saying "sky blue" is lighter than "navy blue"- just stating the obvious.

But yes each person with either label is an individual.
There is a distinction made between HFA and aspergers. If you learn to speak at the a normal age a toddler speaks you're aspergers, if you dont speak until later your HFA-thats the only defining difference as I understand it. So you could probably find individuals with HFA who are less handicapped than individuals with severe aspergers.

But as a general rule if you're talking to someone who never heard of either condtion saying that "autism is more severe than aspergers" is a fair statement. Its a good "short answer" to someone asking about the spectrum.



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23 May 2011, 1:43 pm

Enjoying life living at home with my parents for ever? Living in a care home/residental home? how can anyone enjoy life living in those kind of conditons????



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23 May 2011, 1:43 pm

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to be honest i don't like being around large groups of people even though i am interested in the outside world its hard for me to reach it.


So what? I don't like being around large groups of people. You just need to find things to do that don't require that.

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what i don't want to do is have to live and be taken care for by my family for the rest of my life or be put in a residental home.


Completely understandable. But you have to look at what you can and can't do and start from there. Build on your strengths and compensate for your weaknesses

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God i wish i had aspergers


WTF? What good would that do you? You wish someone would label you differently? You aren't even formally diagnosed with any form of autism yet and you are worried about the label?

I feel the need to repeat myself.


Build on your strengths and compensate for your weaknesses.
Build on your strengths and compensate for your weaknesses.
Build on your strengths and compensate for your weaknesses.
Build on your strengths and compensate for your weaknesses.
Build on your strengths and compensate for your weaknesses.


Labels are for doctors, lawyers and other 'professionals'. Sometimes they're needed and sometimes not. But no label changes your reality or your life.


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23 May 2011, 1:49 pm

How do you think i could avoid being put into a home? I don't mind living with my parents i guess thats okay but a residental home would suck.



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23 May 2011, 2:00 pm

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How do you think i could avoid being put into a home? I don't mind living with my parents i guess thats okay but a residental home would suck.


How do you know it would suck? Or is what you really mean is that your ego can't handle it?

How could it suck worse than a father that tells you to kill yourself? Or a father threatens to kill you. Or a brother that torments the crap out of you? Hell, a residential home for a few years may just be your ticket OUT of that cesspool called "family" you keep telling us about. Maybe you could get some space to breathe and unwind and learn some life skills. Then you COULD do something like keep your own apartment and get a job.


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23 May 2011, 2:05 pm

Really care homes are for elderly people and i would not have much freedom i would be confined to a building.

as you already know my parents brought me my own apartment so maybe i should move into it? If that fails then maybe a home or a hostel would be an option?


then again maybe i could make new friends if i went to a home? My current NT friends are not as warm to me as they were in the past.



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23 May 2011, 2:15 pm

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as you already know my parents brought me my own apartment so maybe i should move into it? If.


Yes, you should. There is no reason to be worrying about a group home/care home/having to live with your parents when there is an apartment just waiting for you. You should take this opportunity. You can use this apartment as a way to learn how to live independently. Since they already took the step of getting this apartment, it is likely they will help you figure out what you need to do to live in it.



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23 May 2011, 2:32 pm

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as you already know my parents brought me my own apartment so maybe i should move into it? If that fails then maybe a home or a hostel would be an option?


Good god man. What are you waiting for?


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then again maybe i could make new friends if i went to a home? My current NT friends are not as warm to me as they were in the past.


Good god man, what are you waiting for?


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23 May 2011, 2:35 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
as you already know my parents brought me my own apartment so maybe i should move into it? If that fails then maybe a home or a hostel would be an option?


Good god man. What are you waiting for?


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then again maybe i could make new friends if i went to a home? My current NT friends are not as warm to me as they were in the past.


Good god man, what are you waiting for?


Seconded. If I were you, I would move out immediately.


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