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29 May 2011, 6:46 pm

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the ... s-autistic

An interesting thing it says is that masterbation is "the most autistic of sexual practices".



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29 May 2011, 7:05 pm

I mastruabte like 3-5 hours per day lol

does this mean I am autistic?



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29 May 2011, 7:12 pm

Oh, wonderful. Another pundit reaching for autism (or any other disability) to use as a tenuous metaphor to describe social ills.



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29 May 2011, 8:56 pm

There are better things for me to do with my time, than to stroke myself.


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29 May 2011, 8:59 pm

Given how popular pornography is, I have to question the idea that masturbation is an autistic sex act.



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29 May 2011, 9:29 pm

Interesting thing. In the area I was brought up in, one manner was to:

"NEVER speak a language in public that the other parties can't understand!"!

Indians don't follow it. And I don't try to push my celebrations on them, but they do on me. What about Paul's statement, in the Bible, "When in greece, do as the greeks."!?

If someone wants to visit the US, they should observe the US customs, laws, and manners. I do when I travel!



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29 May 2011, 9:31 pm

I believe western society's condition is not so much autistic as it is postmodern. But even that is not an adequate label; it's a combination of materialism, consumerism and egoism. And we're not disconnected from each other--quite the opposite, in fact. It's just that now our connections with our community more superficial, resulting in an impersonal culture. It all boils down to our economics and technology, really. In pre-industrial societies, the family took precedence in a person's livelihood, and people were dependent on other people do tasks that they could not do themselves, whereas now everything has become so interdependent on everything else that The Corporation or The State has become the most important, and machines do many of the tasks that were once left to human beings, resulting in less social interaction.



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29 May 2011, 10:24 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
Interesting thing. In the area I was brought up in, one manner was to:

"NEVER speak a language in public that the other parties can't understand!"!

Indians don't follow it. And I don't try to push my celebrations on them, but they do on me. What about Paul's statement, in the Bible, "When in greece, do as the greeks."!?

If someone wants to visit the US, they should observe the US customs, laws, and manners. I do when I travel!


People have the right to assembly.

There's no reason to demand people always speak English just because someone around them only speaks English. Odds are they're not even talking about you or anything relevant to you, so why sweat it?

And how do they push celebrations on you? And while you might not, particular Western holidays (many of them religious) are extremely pervasive.



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29 May 2011, 11:23 pm

I like the Bowling alone analogy. I worked in a Military Bowling Center from 1984 until 2001, and watched the interest in Bowling in leagues dissipate as more entertainment avenues became available at home.

It wasn't just limited to Bowling, but also other recreational activities throughtout the community at the time. Parks use to be full of adult softball teams and adult tennis players. Now they are frequented by small family units. Many golf courses have closed in the area. Recreation is becoming a solitary pursuit, that often is done within the confines of the home.

The thing I noticed about Bowling Leagues and recreation, is the social component created many smiles, produced laughter, and created social connections that lasted for decades.

What is left now, as far as the major life activities with face to face interaction. School, Work, Church, and Bars. For many people it is just work, and the complexity of the workplace today doesn't allow for the interaction that it did 30 years ago.

Kid's still join soccer teams, and sports teams, but adults don't play together (face to face) nearly as much as they did before "home entertainment".

I also found Multiculturism interesting. When I was growing up in the 60's and 70's one person could almost completely wrap their arms around the major cultural activities in the country.

Entertainment was limited enough where people were watching the same things on TV, and at the theater, listening to the same limited news events, driving a limited number of American cars, listening to a handful of music genre's, and participating in the same recreational activities.

Now one can be immersed not only in the complexity of modern day culture, but become immersed in the culture of decades past through digital media.

More people than ever are on a totally different page in life. It wasn't always like this.

The blog is amusing but the Asperger analogy is a little inappropriate I think, in a resource like psychology today. Particularly the masturbation comment.



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29 May 2011, 11:50 pm

I find that I am coming out of my autistic tendencies (well not fully, not much I can do about alot of it) but I mean I actually want to live life and explore. I'm getting tired of putting forth the effort to talk to people though considering they've proven to be a bunch of backstabbing drama queens.

What I have found with people who are not autistic that are becoming like what they complain about with autistics are the following:

1. Spends more time on the computer.
2. Isolation over computer.
3. Prefers to type over use a phone or go to someone's house (facebook, instant messages, email)
4. Engages in isolation through playing games like Farmville, WOW, SecondLife or any other facebook game.
5. Cannot leave the house without a laptop.

Come to think of it, most things bullies make fun of they eventually turn into. Karma perhaps?



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30 May 2011, 12:20 am

TheygoMew wrote:
I find that I am coming out of my autistic tendencies (well not fully, not much I can do about alot of it) but I mean I actually want to live life and explore. I'm getting tired of putting forth the effort to talk to people though considering they've proven to be a bunch of backstabbing drama queens.

What I have found with people who are not autistic that are becoming like what they complain about with autistics are the following:

1. Spends more time on the computer.
2. Isolation over computer.
3. Prefers to type over use a phone or go to someone's house (facebook, instant messages, email)
4. Engages in isolation through playing games like Farmville, WOW, SecondLife or any other facebook game.
5. Cannot leave the house without a laptop.

Come to think of it, most things bullies make fun of they eventually turn into. Karma perhaps?


Interesting that people diagnosed with Aspergers contributed to the development of the personal computer; the magic of extreme systemization and focus of interest, and the beauty of the graphic user interface matched with visual thinking. If the graphic user interface hadn't come along, I doubt the information technology would have spread like it did.



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30 May 2011, 12:36 am

Maybe this is evolution in progress. Society is evolving to what is easiest and requires the least amount of exertion. It's only natural to want to take the easy way. You see it in nature. Animals would rather have a human feed them, when given the choice, than find their own food. Our society revolves around comfort and ease. It's too exhausting to know all your neighbors and every member of your community. It's too difficult living up to their highest expectations and feeling like crap when you don't. So people do what they have to, retreating to their own bubble at the end of the day to relax and experience life in a drama free way.
If someone wants to label this "autistic" so be it.



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30 May 2011, 2:33 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Maybe this is evolution in progress. Society is evolving to what is easiest and requires the least amount of exertion. It's only natural to want to take the easy way. You see it in nature. Animals would rather have a human feed them, when given the choice, than find their own food. Our society revolves around comfort and ease. It's too exhausting to know all your neighbors and every member of your community. It's too difficult living up to their highest expectations and feeling like crap when you don't. So people do what they have to, retreating to their own bubble at the end of the day to relax and experience life in a drama free way.
If someone wants to label this "autistic" so be it.


Sure, that makes sense from an organisms preference for fulfillment from the least effort. But all that particular human's fulfillment by new media sacrifices the human's society's standard of community. People are not as connected as they used to be, or are connected in ways that are not physically/emotionally as fulfilling. Seeing folks from down the street, old friends at the park/courts/sports field vs. looking them up on facebook, sending them an email, etc. Sure it is less effort, but I believe humans as social animals need a level of "closeness" not available from new media that the past used to always provide. Maybe that is just for old-types. I feel this way in my mid twenties (social media boomed when I left high school). There is something amiss about today's society.



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30 May 2011, 6:30 am

jc6chan wrote:
An interesting thing it says is that masterbation is "the most autistic of sexual practices".


They need to get out more and listen to some GG Allin. He wasn't autistic, and half his songs are about masturbation.



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30 May 2011, 9:29 am

Verdandi wrote:
Given how popular pornography is, I have to question the idea that masturbation is an autistic sex act.

Any activity that does not involve others (and only involves the self) will be labeled "autistic".



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30 May 2011, 10:41 am

People sloping about here with laptops tend to have much better social skills than me, talk with people in person or on phone much more, understand socializing way better, use facebook still with ease compared to me, hang out with each other a lot more than I do, speak about topics that are not my interests. Not to mention sensory issues.

I wouldn't say they are autistic.

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we rely on computers to perform the feats of rote memory, instant recall, and lightning calculation you would otherwise only find in autistic savants

What feats? Does anybody of us have all this? I don't have a single one of them.