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30 Jun 2012, 7:45 pm

who here finds that getting a buzz or drunk makes you talk like an "NT"? I do =( i hate how i have to drink just to talk to people i am shy around.



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30 Jun 2012, 7:54 pm

It doesn't make me (or probably you =P) like an NT. Alcohol just makes everyone talkative and emotional and less able to focus on small details. It sounds like being more NT, but you still don't have a clue what is and isn't expected, proper social behavior. You just don't gave a s*** xd

I can get seriously foot in mouth sometimes when drunk and have even more sensory filtering issues. I will notice or miss things sometimes seemingly at random. I'll be mid conversation with my wife, notice she has a message on facebook, and miss whole sentences suddenly.


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30 Jun 2012, 8:09 pm

Yes alcohol and pot make me very neurotypical. I become very social and flirtatious. But I don't recommend doing drugs to act neurotypical. It's not healthy.



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30 Jun 2012, 9:04 pm

I agree, it's weird how alcohol temporarily suspends some of the behavior patterns that I struggle with from day to day. On the other hand, maybe more scientific research needs to be done on WHY this is the case. What happens in my brain when I drink that allows me to momentarily be NT?



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30 Jun 2012, 9:10 pm

Rebel_Nowe wrote:
It doesn't make me (or probably you =P) like an NT. Alcohol just makes everyone talkative and emotional and less able to focus on small details. It sounds like being more NT, but you still don't have a clue what is and isn't expected, proper social behavior. You just don't gave a s*** xd

I can get seriously foot in mouth sometimes when drunk and have even more sensory filtering issues. I will notice or miss things sometimes seemingly at random. I'll be mid conversation with my wife, notice she has a message on facebook, and miss whole sentences suddenly.


Have to agree.



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30 Jun 2012, 9:18 pm

Alcohol makes my physical body drunk, but for some reason my mind is the same, therefore I'm not any more socially adaptive/ intuitive to situations. I don't think being drunk will transform an aspie into a "normal" person, anyway.
I've only been drunk twice in my life, and was quite heavily intoxicated both times, yet I can remember everything that happened in sequence 3 years later. I also remember going to bed drunk and feeling as though my bed was swallowing me which put me off drinking again.



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30 Jun 2012, 9:29 pm

I was even weirder than I am now when I drank...so I quit lol



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30 Jun 2012, 9:36 pm

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Alcohol makes my physical body drunk, but for some reason my mind is the same

<_<
Get rum from sugar cane grown south of Florida that was distilled south of america. Something about it being made from a simpler sugar from most alcohol and the ingredients being fresher/never cooling off makes for a very heady drinking experience. I try to only drink rum and not buy rum that is from a company farther north than south Florida, but puerto rican rum is fairly easy to come by. Mount Gay is maybe the best, imo. It's from Barbados, crazy smooth, and crazy heady.


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30 Jun 2012, 9:38 pm

I feel like that for the most part.



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30 Jun 2012, 9:41 pm

Rebel_Nowe wrote:
It doesn't make me (or probably you =P) like an NT. Alcohol just makes everyone talkative and emotional and less able to focus on small details. It sounds like being more NT, but you still don't have a clue what is and isn't expected, proper social behavior. You just don't gave a s*** xd

I'm just playing around with this idea at the moment so when I challenge your point here, I'm not sold on my idea yet but just putting it out there.

One of the main "problems" aspies have seems to be focussing too much on the details. Drinking helps stop this from happening. Therefore we are more NT. Do we really then have the same social issues? I'm wondering if NTs are just as bad as us at "knowing what to do", but they don't give a s***, whether they are drinking or not. They don't notice or care as much when they make social mistakes, so they participate more and therefore get better at it at a faster rate (and if they still aren't great at it, nobody really cares or notices as much as an aspie would think they do).

In short, I'm suggesting that "not giving a s***" is a big part of what separates aspies from NTs.



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30 Jun 2012, 10:02 pm

Two problems with that, though:

1) It's natural for aspies not to care. We learn to care when not being able to naturally participate brings negative consequences.

2) My NT wife says that it's not a matter of caring or not caring for NTs. It's fairly natural to participate in social functions, she says. They don't spend time thinking about it because it happens somewhat automatically.


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30 Jun 2012, 10:16 pm

This probably happens to some of you as alcohol slows down the brain and as a result can temporarily lower or remove the inhibitions we would normally have. I wouldn't drink just to be like a NT, just be true to yourself and the one's that are truly important will still like you for who you are.



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30 Jun 2012, 10:25 pm

How common is it for aspies to have issues with alcoholism?



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30 Jun 2012, 10:27 pm

Rebel_Nowe wrote:
Two problems with that, though:

1) It's natural for aspies not to care. We learn to care when not being able to naturally participate brings negative consequences.

2) My NT wife says that it's not a matter of caring or not caring for NTs. It's fairly natural to participate in social functions, she says. They don't spend time thinking about it because it happens somewhat automatically.

Or are we simply more pessimistic and aware of what we are doing wrong - do we notice and remember the bad experiences more easily?

Could my term "caring" be synonymous with "not doing it automatically"? I.e., more like awareness than caring, I suppose. Could we remove the "because" from your last sentence and replace it with a comma? The difference between aspie and NT is that one spends their energy thinking about what they are doing while they other does it automatically. I guess that's what I mean by "doesn't care". Not a conscious decision (but influenced by alcohol).



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30 Jun 2012, 10:29 pm

seaweasel wrote:
who here finds that getting a buzz or drunk makes you talk like an "NT"? I do =( i hate how i have to drink just to talk to people i am shy around.


It only causes you to think you're acting like an NT, when you're really just acting like a drunk.... Pretty much the same thing that it does to NTs when THEY drink and think that it makes them charming and witty...


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30 Jun 2012, 10:36 pm

dyingofpoetry wrote:
seaweasel wrote:
who here finds that getting a buzz or drunk makes you talk like an "NT"? I do =( i hate how i have to drink just to talk to people i am shy around.


It only causes you to think you're acting like an NT, when you're really just acting like a drunk.... Pretty much the same thing that it does to NTs when THEY drink and think that it makes them charming and witty...

Acting like an NT drunk or an aspie drunk? Is there a difference?