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07 Jul 2011, 4:32 pm

NY Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/health/research/05autism.html

It's not a breathless OMG article. It has some interesting points.

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07 Jul 2011, 4:34 pm

That is a fascinating article.

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07 Jul 2011, 5:07 pm

It is incredible what the brain can learn, and how we can change if we want. There is no getting completely developed around 20, like I was told as a kid. In many ways Im a new person every year and have taken the point of this article into consideration a long time ago.

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08 Jul 2011, 5:21 am

I was 27 when I had my child. It was my first pregnancy. She was 5 pounds 13 oz (not that much, but not under weight either). I did not take medications during or before my pregnancy (I was afraid of doing so, actually. I read the labels very carefully). I have never had antidepresants. I will have to wait for the complete results, I guess. These studies usually do not apply to me. I still think my daughter has AS because my husband is Aspie, too. She is a beautiful, healthy (incredible healthy), intelligent girl.

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08 Jul 2011, 6:29 am

Ilka wrote:

This is what makes autism so puzzling. There are so many variables that any one theory never covers the entire spectrum.

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08 Jul 2011, 9:01 am

Ilka wrote:

Similar story with me. I was 32 when my daughter was born, weighing 7lb 10oz (exactly average), 4 days before her due date. The pregnancy was textbook and labour lasted just 8 hours. The only meds I took were pre-natal vitamins and I've never taken any anti-depressants, hardly ever had a prescription drug, never smoked, seldom drink alcohol and have never used illegal substances. My daughter is the healthiest child I know and highly intelligent. She's always been way ahead of her peers in most developmental areas (talking, walking, feeding herself, toilet training, etc). Maybe the fact that I never knowingly did anything harmful means that I have a very high functioning child (probably Aspergers, not diagnosed yet, being assessed currently) and not a lower functioning child. (And I'm not suggesting for a minute that those with lower functioning children must have done something wrong. The genetics might have dictated that was just the way the child was going to be.) My daughter's traits were present the day she was born (sensory issues relating to nappy/clothing changes and suckling). I believe she's inherited some traits from me and my husband (he's NT, but has traits).

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08 Jul 2011, 10:24 am

There is another thread discussing the same research -

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt167234.html

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08 Jul 2011, 11:00 am

For those who hate Autism with a vengance, Autism is caused by bad luck.

For those who seem to think Autism is wonderful and enjoy being different, Autism is caused by good luck.

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08 Jul 2011, 11:13 am

Joe90 wrote:

For those who hate Autism with a vengance, Autism is caused by bad luck.

For those who seem to think Autism is wonderful and enjoy being different, Autism is caused by good luck.

What of those that don't believe luck causes anything?

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08 Jul 2011, 1:07 pm

Joe90 wrote:

For those who hate Autism with a vengance, Autism is caused by bad luck.

For those who seem to think Autism is wonderful and enjoy being different, Autism is caused by good luck.

No, autism is caused by a mix of genetic and environmental factors that impact one's developmental trajectory through childhood and thus throughout their lives.

What does luck have to do with anything?

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08 Jul 2011, 2:20 pm

Verdandi wrote:

When one has absolutely no control over one's socially-perceived weaknesses, one can feel rather displeased. No one ever chose to be autistic. You either inherit it or you don't.

i.e. It's all luck.

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08 Jul 2011, 2:27 pm

AdmiralCrunch wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

When one has absolutely no control over one's socially-perceived weaknesses, one can feel rather displeased. No one ever chose to be autistic. You either have inherit it or you don't.

i.e. It's all luck.

In a typically aspie display of pedantry, I must assert that luck implies some sort of agency in the universe, some form of intention or fate. Absent that, luck is just a sloppy term for random chance.

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08 Jul 2011, 2:32 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:

AdmiralCrunch wrote:

Verdandi wrote:

This is pretty close to what I was going to say. Somewhat amusing in light of the name I use here.

To me, everything has a cause. Luck, to me, is not a cause but an excuse.

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08 Jul 2011, 2:35 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:

luck is just a sloppy term for random chance.

A-HEM! It's called stochastics, thank you very much!

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08 Jul 2011, 2:51 pm

AdmiralCrunch wrote:

wavefreak58 wrote:

luck is just a sloppy term for random chance.

A-HEM! It's called stochastics, thank you very much!

LOL. I almost used that word.

Life is a Markov Chain.

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08 Jul 2011, 2:55 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:

Life is a Markov Chain.

..like a drunk walking about.

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