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26 Aug 2006, 7:29 pm

The sound leakage from these toys is unbareable for me. Why do ppl feel they need 150 dB of internal sound to enjoy the music. I hope that in 20 years they are all deaf.

The leakage is so distracting for me that it stops my internal thoughts and focuses them in a negative form against the offender.
Now they have speaker phones (mobiles) that ppl seem to want to share their music with everyone else. This is the most offensive action to an HFA reading a book.

I am thinking of wearing ear plugs on public transport from now on as the exterior sound assault is becoming too much for me to handle.

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26 Aug 2006, 7:34 pm

If they're using 150dB regularly, they'll be deaf well before 20 years have passed by.

Seriously - anything about 85dB *will* damage hearing if the person is exposed for more than a few seconds. Even if a person is deaf, if their loss is less than 85dB it will cause further loss.


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26 Aug 2006, 7:45 pm

The problem is the CHEAP headphones that apple gives you with the ipods, that aren't even worth the plastic they're made of! You've noticed that most of the sound goes outside the headphones...not into the listener's ear. They are terribly inefficient, not to mention that they have poor frequency response. Most of the people that have i-pods have never experienced how much better their music will sound with a decent set of cans...a set that has decent sized diaphragms, or even a pair that fits over the ears and reduces ambient noise from getting into the ear too.

Most people turn these up not only becasue the sound from the headphones leak out, but because other sound leaks IN. If you can reduce the background noise, you can reduce the volume of the music you are attempting to hear. Because the headphones have such poor frequency response, turning up the volume is needed to compensate for the deficiency.

I have in fact demonstrated the sound to ambient noise thing in many locations were people complain about the audio quality on a sound system (that's typically a high end one that should sound good). I will go and shut off the noisey air handlers or other machinery, and close the doors to the room, and the user ends up being amazed at how much better their system sounds.



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26 Aug 2006, 7:46 pm

Sorry, I meant a relative value of 150 dB.

The close proximity of the sound source and the associated pressures involved in a closed system will lead to sound spikes up to 150 dB at particular frequencies.

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26 Aug 2006, 7:48 pm

Spot on AV-Geek, turn up the volume to remove external sounds seems to be the action taken by most.



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26 Aug 2006, 8:39 pm

I don't hate iPods, but I do hate the earphones that come with them, and any small headphones in general. I always use those big headphones, even if it means looking a bit dorky and old-fashioned.



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26 Aug 2006, 10:21 pm

bose headphones put them on you dont have to hear them I used to carpool with this guy who didnt have his lisense so his step dad rode with us so he could drive well his dad was a big jerk and Id have low self esteem everyday so I put on these headphones and he would yell and I couldnt hear him heck I couldnt hear an atomic bomb if on was going off nearby



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26 Aug 2006, 10:21 pm

marcus-As wrote:
I am thinking of wearing ear plugs on public transport from now on as the exterior sound assault is becoming too much for me to handle.


I do this all the time. I find it especially necessary in airports for some reason. I highly recommend getting some custom made earplugs as the one-size-fits-all tend to be uncomfortable after a few hours. Any audiologist should be able to hook you up.



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26 Aug 2006, 11:25 pm

Anyone who blasts music at jet engine levels to mask outside noise is just plain stupid.

Since I've invested a fair amount of money on high end audio equipment (iPod included) I like to consider myself an audiophile of sorts, and even when going to concerts I carry a pack of silicone earplugs with me. Killing my ears exposing myself to bare loud noises for a long time wouldn't only render my big investment useless... it would make me deaf, and that definitely would suck in every way you can imagine.

So, if anyone can blow out $300 or $400 to get the fanciest, schmanciest iPod in the market, they certainly can pony up to get some noise-cancelling headphones or earplugs. I use a pair of Sennheisers (PX200 model, I think it is called) and sound is not only amazing, but it also masks outside noises so you don't have to blast the volume out to hide them. They cost me like $50 or so... worth looking for.


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27 Aug 2006, 4:45 am

I listen to an Ipod, but I don't blast it at top volume, because of my hypersensitive ears. Only stupid a***holes do that. Note: It's a PERSONAL mp3 player. People can have their music so loud I can hear the lyrics coming out. I totally agree with you though. If I didn't have hypersensitive ears it would still be uncomfortable to listen to. I don't mind the earphones either.



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27 Aug 2006, 5:15 am

There's a simple and effective solution to your problem.

Try approaching them and politely asking, "Excuse me, could you turn it down a bit? It's very loud".

So far I've done that twice at uni, and I'm hoping to work my way up to asking people on public transport. I had to force myself to do it the first time, but once I did I immediately felt relieved how easy it was. Infact both people I asked even blushed a bit.

These people might be inconsiderate, but I doubt many would be bold enough to refuse to turn it down when challenged. All we have to do is be brave enough to ask, and then we win :)



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28 Aug 2006, 2:10 pm

I guess you haven't encountered the latest fad then. Teenagers have found that their new mobile phones will play their MP3s on the crappy phone speaker and think it's cool to subject everyone to their favourite tunes in all their tinny glory while they walk around catch the train etc. :evil:



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29 Aug 2006, 2:15 pm

One worse thing about the Ipod earphones is that the slip off my ears frequently whenever I move, and that sucks.



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29 Aug 2006, 2:23 pm

I love my Iriver and never travel on the airplane without it. I bought a good set of earbuds the same time I got the Iriver and have never used the pair that came with it. I have also found that I can put hem on and not turn on the Iriver and people will not start tring to talk to me.


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29 Aug 2006, 3:08 pm

I listen to my iPod about 3/4 volume full. Even though I listen to it relatively loudly, my hearing is quite acute.



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29 Aug 2006, 4:58 pm

itfits wrote:
I have also found that I can put hem on and not turn on the Iriver and people will not start tring to talk to me.


On the subway ride to school there are usually lots of people from my class on the same coach as I am, and I pretend to be sleeping to make them not talk to me.

Wish I had an mp3 player.