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13 Aug 2011, 12:02 pm

I know this topic has probably come up a thousands times on this site but anyway if there was a pill that was proven to turn you into a NT would you take it and why? i personally wouldn't because im scared ill lose my keen eye for detail.



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13 Aug 2011, 12:10 pm

I would take it. I don't care what AS traits I would lose. I don't like having AS one bit. When I was a child (after being diagnosed) I always used to sob into my mum's arms, ''I wanna be normal! I wanna have friends in school!'' When I was 12 and 13, I became very depressed. The depression didn't affect my life or emotions. I just came over all depressed when things came up that reminded me that I didn't have any friends. Like when my cousin said she was having a sleep-over with her mates, I cried all week-end, and it didn't help when people started getting onto me that I didn't have any friends. It just got to me for a couple of years, because that was when I felt the lonliest. So all of that was nothing to smile about.

But anyway, yes I would take the pill. I can play the piano, but I don't associate that with having AS, because my mum can play the piano too, and she taught me when I was about 3 or 4, and I picked up the talent ever since. There is nothing else I like about having AS. I wouldn't miss anything.

Asking, ''if you was to move house and you only had to take one thing, what would you take?'' is one of those really difficult questions to answer, but asking, ''if there was a pill you could take that would make you NT, would you take it?'' is not a difficult question to answer. I already know the answer before it's even been asked!

I think I am the only person on WP who would take the pill and never look back and never miss being an Aspie.


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13 Aug 2011, 12:11 pm

nope and I have seen how NT people treat us and why the heck do I want to have the ability to lie to peoples faces and smile at a person while actively stabbing them in the back-being able to get away with not saying what they mean and not meaning what they say-to be able to treat people badly and think nothing of treating someone badly and go home and sleep like there is nothing wrong-that's what being NT is and what people consider normal I do not want it.


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13 Aug 2011, 12:18 pm

I would not take that pill. I don't need to swallow medicine that will make me into one of those people who treated me like crap and did everything they could to hurt me. Why would I take a pill that would give me the ability to be cruel to people who have disabilities?


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13 Aug 2011, 12:26 pm

I would not take it. I am happy the way I am.


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13 Aug 2011, 12:48 pm

You should all leave USA.



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13 Aug 2011, 12:54 pm

No pill will ever exist in the generic sense of a fit all autism treatment to become so called normal. This topic merely is about pharma politics transgressed as a judgement upon the entire self. Each difference and where applicable when manifesting as a barrier has differing treatments and treatments to come. I don't view it as a judgement of my individuality somehow related to how other people have behaved towards me in the past. I think mixing these issues is just political gaming and peer pressure identity politics in a social clique.


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13 Aug 2011, 1:33 pm

This is just an ''if'' topic, discussing if there was ever a pill would you take it. Not all discussions have to be 100 percent realistic. If I took it....

....I wouldn't miss having horrible meltdowns/tantrums/outbursts/breakdowns/panic attacks, whatever you like to call them
....I wouldn't miss my sensitivity to noise
....I wouldn't miss giving off vibes when out in the street
....I wouldn't miss struggling in social situations and all the social awkwardness
....I wouldn't miss that awkward posture
....I wouldn't miss my lack of motivation with taking care of myself
....I wouldn't miss the face blindness and object blindness
....I wouldn't miss having intense obsessions with people (having intense obsessions with people soon makes you look stupid and a nuisance)
....I wouldn't miss the high anxieties
....I wouldn't miss the habit of losing my cool in public when I feel frustrated with too many people
....I wouldn't miss not having most social cues coming naturally to me

Can't think of anything else, but I wouldn't miss any of those above. I know NTs can have poor anger management, obsessions, et cetera, but it always seems to be in the normal range. With me as an Aspie, my anger management goes too far, where I start going manic with anger. Yes, I have heard of NTs throwing objects in an argument with family or friends or spouse, but it's not as abnormal as me going manic with anger when I'm angry. I f*****g hate myself.


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13 Aug 2011, 1:36 pm

I am a chemist so you might expect I love medicines and interesting brews, but there is a problem.

I do not want to suffer the horrors of suddenly having my brain rearranged !


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13 Aug 2011, 1:49 pm

I've commented elseware that even if there was a full cure, that I'd refuse to take it.

I'd rather be me and work around my disability than not be myself. Not being an aspie would be not being myself and I'd have to give up too much. I've actually even been scared about trying to reduce some sensitivities because of being scared that it'd also reduce the sense behind it. My sense of my identity is tied to aspie traits and I'm not willing to give up that.

I'd also support anyone who would choose to take it. If someone else would be more comfortable with themselves without these traits, then it'd be good for them, despite the fact it wouldn't be more comfortable for me.



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13 Aug 2011, 3:45 pm

No thank you! I have no desire to change what and who I am. My brain/mind works just fine the way it is. I would not want to lose mental advantages I have over NT's. And socializing? Who cares? It's mostly a waste of time anyway and not productive. I can always find better things to do with my time than socializing.


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13 Aug 2011, 3:48 pm

If there's any way I could make myself better, I'd do it.

But I really don't believe that a NT mind is any better than the one I have now.


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13 Aug 2011, 3:55 pm

No, I wouldn't take the pill.

What I would like is to have more self-acceptance of myself the way I was born, and then learn to live like that. I definitely have NO self-esteem, but I don't blame that on autism, I blame it on whatever causes everyone else to have no self-esteem. I don't think the answer to curing self-hatred and zero self-acceptance is to turn yourself into someone you are not. That means you still don't accept yourself, but this other person who were not anything like to begin with.


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13 Aug 2011, 4:02 pm

Well what the insurance anyway if I do take the cure and become an NT that I don't turn into a great big a**hole and still cant get or keep friends or still not get laid or get a job-it may get even worse as an NT. I am who I am and ok with myself-yes it can be difficult at time and real lonely but this is the hand I was dealt and I must make the best of it and since they are not even close to a cure for my born this way condition I think I will be as happy as I can be with AS.


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13 Aug 2011, 5:32 pm

I would take it if the effects were not permanent. In a way, I already do take a pill to make me a neurotypical: the SSRI antidepressant sertraline, better know as Zoloft. This helps with anxiety, which through raging teenage hormones has, in the past, pervaded every facet of my life. My friends (some of which know about my condition and those who do not alike) have noted an appreciable change in my demeanor, after the start of the 2010-2011 school year when I stared taking it.



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13 Aug 2011, 5:55 pm

LOL, no, an SSRI doesn't turn you into a neurotypical; it just makes you an autistic person who's not as anxious or depressed.

Not that it wouldn't increase your ability to cope and take care of yourself. Anxiety disorders can be HUGE problems for autistics, and can make the autism much more of an impairment than it would usually be. So don't stop taking the SSRI, if it helps you, but I honestly wouldn't say it has changed the core autistic traits that gave you the autism diagnosis in the first place.


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