Can you have narcissistic traits together with aspie traits?

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I think I may have a few of both, but not enough of either for a diagnosis of Aspergers or NPD. How common is that?

I have some traits which may be narcissistic and these. which i know are something else.
Like,
* poor hygiene
* can't "read between the lines" when someone is talking
* don't understand sarcasm at all and I take everything literally
* and others that are aspie

I could be wrong but I think I saw a thread on narcissism here recently and a lot of people said they had some narcissistic traits. I, personally, can relate strongly to several symptoms in narcissism:

Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
(from Wikipedia)

But for all I know, the narcissistic traits could be developed mechanisms for dealing with some of the inadequacies caused by Asperger's Syndrome. For example, bragging or exaggeration in an attempt to better relate to or socialize with peers, hypersensitivity to insults because so often, for so many of us, conversations have imploded without ever realizing that we'd done something wrong and so on. I'm going to assume that very few Aspies develop narcissistic traits until later in life and instead, either adopt them in self-defense or an attempt to copy those we admire (film characters, actors, etc.) with the hope of achieving some of the success they embody. Think how narcissistic both Han Solo and Indiana Jones were (love 'em though!).

I remember seeing a thread on here not long ago titled something like "Aspergers: the next step in human evolution". So yeah, you can have both narcissistic and aspie traits .

Meh I think you gotta be careful, narcissism is running rampant in our culture nowadays.

A true narcissist won`t be detected by answering a few questions.

It`s a constant thing. It`s common in my family, and I think it may be related to the spectrum in a way.

However things like risk tasking, bullying, and inability to rationalize ones faults typically goes with it.

Also there tends to be a cyclical need for attention that I don`t think most aspies seek.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... /table/T4/

At least in the table from the study linked above, it's pretty uncommon among individuals actually assessed with Asperger's as only 1 out 62 individuals with Asperger's was assessed with it.

While these two symptoms listed after this paragraph were described in Wiki for narcissistic personality disorder, they are also clinical features seen in some with ASD's, as a result of difficulties with social-emotional reciprocity, impairments in non-verbal communication, and the experience of being bullied and ridiculed in life, for not meeting the social expectations of others.

Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people

I think the third brief characteristic, from Wiki of bragging about one's accomplishments and embellishing in subtle ways is pretty unusual for people with ASD's as a deficit of sharing one's accomplishments with other people is actually one of the impairments listed in the criteria for Autistic Disorder and Asperger's syndrome. I think in general, most people do that anonymously online more than they would in real life. So, a life online may make some people seem more narcissistic than they likely are in real life.

I do think in real life people who do continuously attempt to embellish their achievements in life, find themselves in a bit of a fix sometimes with folks with good rote memories who pay attention to detail that more often might notice when the details of a story about one's life continues to change in subtle ways. It's even easier to notice someone online doing this as there is usually a permanent record of words, and one doesn't even have to rely as much on their rote memory for those kind of details.

Aspies can be narcissists as easily as NTs can.

If I'm not mistaken anybody can be diagnosed with a personality disorder. I have one, and if I remember correctly they develoup because of a tramatic upbringing?

From what I understand, there's different degrees of self-love... No self-love would mean that you have low self-esteem. Some self-love is healthy and is considered self-respect. Too much would be narcissism. So yes, you can have narcissistic traits but it doesn't mean you're a narcissist.

Generally though, narcissists would not want to publicly admit that anything is wrong with them, so if you are wondering about it, you probably don't have it.

Sheldon Cooper!

Wow haven't posted here in a long time. I was diagnosed with Schizoid Personality Disorder + Narcissistic Personality Disorder after a few weeks of testing and evaluation with a psychiatrist. I still believe that it is a misdiagnosis for Asperger's though as an Aspie could easily come off as a Schizoid/Narc.