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17 Sep 2011, 9:17 pm

I am generally a visual thinker, but I noticed I'm not like other visual thinkers. I do it my own way. Every concept or idea of something in my mind has its own pictures collection, tags, type and possible actions (what can I do with them?). I see the pictures and they're connected with others by tags, so sometimes I can make up some new ideas or projects. Well, tags are surprising, aren't they?

It helps me to remember things with details, find the relations between things, how something works and how one thing influences another. I make also possibility maps (if this, then that... oh, it's related to this one too, let's consider it) which are helpful, because I can predict something or make better choice. Or it gives me a meltdown, because I overanalyse one possibility too much and I can't cope it (and it doesn't matter it didn't happen yet or it has very fat chance). I don't like those meltdowns, but everything has its cons.

I named it object thinking, because it's not stricte visual, it's made of plenty of pictures combined with tags, actions and relations.
For example: object shoes, clothing type, bunch of pics, related to this-and-that.
Object blue shoes, shoes type, bunch of pics of similar ones and places related to them (where I bought, have been etc.), related to this-and-that, similar to this-and-that, possible actions and results, words describing them (seen as pictures).
New thing, what's that, analysed, classified to type x.

Well, it's much more complicated, but I'm trying to explain.
I think it's visual thinking combined with pattern and extreme systemizing. I'm very good in finding patterns.

Anyone here's the same?


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18 Sep 2011, 12:24 am

cool stuff :) you may find Daniel tammet's thoughts on synesthesia very interesting,

Also.... Where are the pictures etc. I think mine are a little bit up and to the the right of centre vision, some where far behind my eye.

Where do you perceive your 'object thinking'? I know "what's there" and typically "why it's there"... but where is it? :s

right eye or left eye? (thinking with one eye closed it's surprisingly difficult, and my ocular dominance must be my right eye if that's where it feels as if my 'object thinking is being perceived'... ?


Also, Why is it so difficult to quickly assign and create words for the visual collage of facts and memories your given to 'translate'.
Still working on that myself :(
too many times I have an HD visual and no words what so ever :s



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18 Sep 2011, 6:56 am

Kail wrote:
cool stuff :) you may find Daniel tammet's thoughts on synesthesia very interesting,


I've read many articles and seen some videos about Daniel. His brain works much better than mine does, much better than most people. I learn languages pretty quickly, but not as good as he does. He's really über. Respect to him.

Kail wrote:
Where do you perceive your 'object thinking'? I know "what's there" and typically "why it's there"... but where is it? :s

right eye or left eye? (thinking with one eye closed it's surprisingly difficult, and my ocular dominance must be my right eye if that's where it feels as if my 'object thinking is being perceived'... ?


I see all my pictures in my mind, not in my eyes. My right eye is also dominant (I have amblyopia), but it doesn't matter. I see my pics, in better or worse quality, in my mind. Then they change to others related with them or classified to the same object type.

What I see, if I think:
what? Picture of something and I can switch to another one.
where? Picture of this place (and I can switch).
where with date? I see freeze-frames of this event (and I can switch).
why? I watch my pictures related to this object, make my probability map and try to find the solution.

When I see something new, when I am in new place, etc.
I perceive the world like in this video. Then I attribute new pics to the place and event.

I don't believe I am the only one here, who thinks this way!


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18 Sep 2011, 9:01 am

i see everything in pictures in my mind, but it isn't just that simple.. i need a certain TAG as you call it to remember the big picture.. if i as example look at a glas of wine.. i would remember the music video i wanna make in a dark room with red winy colors and lots of drama :P
i get what you mean, that also explains why people can't touch my gear because they might be settled in my room the way my thoughts prefer it and if someone mixes them my head becomes a big mess.


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18 Sep 2011, 11:00 am

As opposed to what other kinds of thinking?

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18 Sep 2011, 11:03 am

As visual/pattern subtype.


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18 Sep 2011, 11:11 am

Valoyossa wrote:
I am generally a visual thinker, but I noticed I'm not like other visual thinkers. I do it my own way. Every concept or idea of something in my mind has its own pictures collection, tags, type and possible actions (what can I do with them?). I see the pictures and they're connected with others by tags, so sometimes I can make up some new ideas or projects. Well, tags are surprising, aren't they?

First time I've ever heard anyone describe it but this is exactly how I think. I have my own mental images which are tagged with information and other senses. I can't really describe how I do it but 1 small mental image which takes milliseconds to think about can contain masses of information which could take me minutes to hours to put into words. Although this is a powerful way of thinking when it comes to science, I find I have a disadvantage in lectures at college cuz I have to actively translate all the words into my own mental language and more often than not, the words I'm given are not sufficient to form a complete mental image. If I have to use words then I have to read many different explanations because that way I can form accurate mental images to represent the concepts. My ideal medium for learning are videos with explanations. If the video is good then it will provide the necessary mental images so I don't need to make my own and if it provides explanations then I know exactly what the pictures they provide represent and as a result I can use them as my own mental images.



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18 Sep 2011, 11:54 am

Great. I started to think I am completely different and only one.

Ya, videos with explanations are very good way to learn. I love also pictures, maps, charts, sequences, arrows, stats, etc.
Spoken lectures are a big waste of time to me. I don't think in words, so I often find something to analyse or count and I ignore the lecture.


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18 Sep 2011, 12:28 pm

I'm not sure how to imagine your "tags" (I'm thinking they are like "tags" in a web-search?).....but I think my brain works in a similar way.

My thinking is also primarily a combination of visual-spatial and patterns/logic (and something I call "feeling-thoughts" or "experience-thinking").

Everything in my brain gets mapped into webs of otherwise fragmented information based on different kinds of actual or possible relationships (which I have to be able to see, hear, etc.....or understand using concrete analogies).



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18 Sep 2011, 4:24 pm

Of course its in our mind... but where...

IT LOOKS, like its about middle right...of centre vision

How do we see things in our mind... like where is it?

it;s obviously not outside our mind?



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18 Sep 2011, 4:26 pm

How do you know where your mind's eye is? lol... it must be somewhere...

?????????????????



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18 Sep 2011, 4:52 pm

like when doing math in your head... It's like it's in the middle of random space and time... or slightly up and to the right WAY "BEHIND" the eye... which would be in the brain, soooooooo perhaps in the upper right of our brain is where we perceive the visuals???