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aarghapanda
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25 Sep 2006, 12:18 pm

I'm just feeling really annoyed at the world and our society. I'm feeling hopeful and optimistic. I was bouncing around to music about half an hour ago, happy. Because even though society was crushing me and tearing me up i am still going and i am learning and finding better and better ways to do things, and starting to break free, which is really good and fills you with hope, but i guess I'm still annoyed at the world for making everything so difficult and stressful.

I am angry at the way things are at the moment. I'm fed up with (most) people not caring about things, not being passionate about things, not opening their eyes or looking at things in individual and thought provoking ways.

I'm fed up with adverts and the media manipulating everyone and shoving us around. i'm fed up with lies, endless horrible lies from politicians and companies.

I'm fed up with how artificial the world feels - endless soulless corporations that just don't care about anything important as long as their bank accounts keep getting bigger.

I'm fed up with being told how to live my life, being told I'm wrong and being told how to feel and how to act, and being condemned if I don't.

I'm fed up of money, insurance, bills and loans and companies trying to make them sound so important and interesting. They are not, and they never will be.

I'm fed up of being told to buy the cheapest food/clothes i can possibly buy because that's all that's important - the farmers, animals, environment and third-world food producers don't matter as long as i've saved £4.50 at the end of my shopping trip.

I'm fed up of people viewing the artificial man-made world as if it is the "real" world, when the real world is the natural world.

I'm fed up with people blindly believing the crap we get fed every day, and just swaying whichever way the wind blows. Where is your spirit, your individuality, your ability to think for yourself? I'm fed up with having to tackle everything in a slow, mature, premeditated, boring, conservative, materialistic, shallow, soulless, sheep-like way. You can't just get out there and help or make yourself heard... nooooooooooooooooo that would be too fun and easy and individual. You need a degree. Yes! a degree in whatever you are trying to change. Without that, how do you expect to do anything because you're just a nobody. Poke poke. Now sit down and shut up.

But i don't want to sit down and shut up, and i'm not going to. All of this kind of stuff has messed me up and I feel it squashing me down, like a forceful burden, a weight of responsibility and pressure but i'm not going to believe it.

I don't need a 9-5 office job.

I don't need a mortgage.

I don't need insurance on EVERYTHING.

I don't need a big house.

I don't need a nice car.

I don't need to be surrounded by technology.

I don't need clothes for every occasion, and cosmetics for every tiny little thing.

I don't need a mobile phone always on me.

I don't need a debit/credit card.

I don't need every single service under the sun and to pay every bill on time every month.


So will people please shut up?

If you need to talk about things then try being passionate about something that has some soul.

Materialistic. Shallow. That is all.



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25 Sep 2006, 12:27 pm

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'm fed up with people blindly believing the crap we get fed every day, and just swaying whichever way the wind blows. Where is your spirit, your individuality, your ability to think for yourself?


It's called herd mentality and it, along with need to have something to look up to are the greatest weaknesses of man kind (i.e. "the wave", milgram experiment, etc.).


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25 Sep 2006, 12:43 pm

I agree the worlds full of two dimensional concerns, its exasperating.



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25 Sep 2006, 2:07 pm

The world feels like that to me, too.

I find it particularly sad that people who are good at practical things and produce items of real physical value get paid far less than (for example) bankers, estate agents and solicitors.

My only note of caution is that sometimes systems do exist for a reason. I've had discussions with various forum members who think ALL conventions should be abolished, and I don't necessarily agree that's a good idea. Personal freedoms must be limited so that they cannot impinge upon the wellbeing of others. For example, I might feel free to take whatever I fancy, or to smack someone in the mouth because I feel like it. That sort of behaviour does need to be actively discouraged through some form of social framework. I don't believe the majority of people have a humanitarian conscience any more - so would giving the selfish idiots more freedom of choice really be a good idea?

But apart from that, yeah - I agree with you wholeheartedly. The world is often unnecessarily complex, and this stifles individualism, creativity and intellectual growth. There are far too many lies being told and too many people who just accept them.


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25 Sep 2006, 2:50 pm

sociable_hermit wrote:
I don't believe the majority of people have a humanitarian conscience any more - so would giving the selfish idiots more freedom of choice really be a good idea?


ah, but sociable_hermit, dont you think its likely that people are this way as a product of the social framework that they are living in now? i have a feeling it is. as such, limiting the freedom of the individual actually encourages a less responsible and more self serving attitude among the majority. but then again perhaps i am just an idealist...


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25 Sep 2006, 2:56 pm

You say that you "Dont need" alot of times.

But what do "you want"?

You "dont need" a nice car but would "you like" a nice car. one that "you wanted"?


The feelings you express are of the negative aspects of modern living, there are many positive aspects to enjoy. I suggest you start searching for the things that make you whole and not the things that take from you.

Find peace.

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25 Sep 2006, 4:20 pm

I agree with Marcus. Turn off the TV, the cell phone, the radio, and concentrate on what makes you happy and feel positive. I understand your frustrations, and it's easy to get sucked up in the negative, mundane world. Try to center and ground yourself in who you want to be and what you want to do. In the end, it doesn't really matter what people think. Really only you and the people who are close to you matter.


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25 Sep 2006, 11:27 pm

Similarly to what marcus-AS said, the people advertising are going on the fact that many people would like it, and only a few people actually need it. People who succume to greed easily are the most vulnerable to this sort of thing.


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25 Sep 2006, 11:35 pm

I get disgusted with the "herd" several times a day. At least.



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26 Sep 2006, 1:52 pm

I am so herd astute that I can step outside of the group rush and make my own choice. I am also amused at how easy it is to create an "unseen" pasture for a herd to want to migrate to. (is that correct? "to want to migrate to", it seems funny too me) I digress.

I do what i enjoy. If am forced otherwise then i learn to enjoy the task in some other way.

My latest passion (its an old one rekindled from my teens) is robots, as in the bipedal type used in Robo-one fights. (g oo gle it). I bought a kit, Now i am more happy then before.

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It is usually preditors who are outside the herd feeling distaste for the blunderings of the feeble prey.

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26 Sep 2006, 2:15 pm

Preditors? I don't see all of us as that. Maybe some people on the outside are, though. Interesting thought. I feel a bit sorry for the sheep.



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26 Sep 2006, 2:27 pm

You dont have to actively prey on the herd to be classified as a predator.

Housecats for example are considered predators since they possess traits which would make them deadly to their prey if they were so inclined to hunt.


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27 Sep 2006, 12:14 am

^And yet my cat always brings in a dead mouse or cricket every Sunday...

The proof that I'm outside the 'herd' is that I absolutely HATE fashion shows to death. I mean, get me started on one of those tackily done and shiny dresses and I'll complain about the entire show!


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27 Sep 2006, 1:52 pm

Doh! I am a man, so fashion shows that have hot women prancing around showing lots of flesh are a real boon for me :)



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27 Sep 2006, 2:02 pm

Eh not all men are like that though my hubby calls those "models" anything from unattractive to "grotesquely disfigured" and quickly changes the channel while making a face :P

There may be hope for him yet :P


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27 Sep 2006, 3:31 pm

Not much to say, except I agree and I know the feeling.

If Aspies are ever leaders, they will tend to lead by example and not charisma; perhaps, with enough of us being examples of people who really do care, others will see just how important it is.


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