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Many different kinds of mental exercises that create new neural pathways towards being an NT and close some that are responsible for being an Aspie.

There are many things that have been written about what an Aspie can do socially. Example mirroring other people behaviour. The problem is throughout the day we can often have very few opportunities to do this. There should be an exercise where one can set aside an hour or to focus totally on this exercise. Them move on the next, eye contact, for an hour or so then the next.

The other side of improving should is to have a lifestyle that cuts off links to the brain that encourages Autism and Aspergers. Maybe don’t trying to think in a logical, rational way.

· Stop doing Aspies hobbies, like Programming, that could potentially strengthen neurons reasonable for Aspergers.
· Start going to Church on a Sunday (and don’t question the inconsistency of the BIBLE)
· Stop treating friends as impartial and equally as strangers. Example if a friend does a driving mistake, it is ok. When a stranger does it, he is a complete idiot.
· Use humour at the other person’s expanse. For you friend and close collages it is just friendly banter and joking however when joke to your fiends for your enemies it, turn it up a notch, becomes mockery of that enemy.
· Take an interest in soccer/football, go to a few matches- remember! don’t have an impartial attitude when your teem gets away with a foul or being offside.

Does anyone have any comments

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I've tried doing these sorts of things.

I find it exhausting trying to be 'more NT'; i need lots of recovery time afterwards & feel generally more miserable.
I have the feeling i have wasted years futilely trying to be something i am not.
I've now stopped trying & am much happier.

But good luck, i hope it works out for you.

My plan is to have an One-Month-Intensive program

Soon is I can find the right exercises to do, each one will take one-to-two hours for each.

Stop treating your friends as total strangers? That's truly the hardest thing for me

This is a very interesting topic.

I didn't realise how much I mirrored NT behaviour until I finished working in an office with about 25 NTs. I became a lot more aspie, which is what I truly was underneath all along but I mistook the mirrored behaviour as the 'real me', wondering all along why, deep down, I felt so tired, out-of-place and uncomfortable.

I feel that my work now is to accept myself as I am, and the sometimes weirdness that goes with it, whilst being able to function adequately, if not brilliantly, in the NT world. That is my personal goal.

Hope your program works for you, please keep us posted

I don't really do that, but I often forget their names for 1 or 2 seconds though

Well, you're getting that part down. JK

Seriously though, I thought this was a joke. After seeing some replies I'm having a hard time telling.

I have spent my life,since childhood,fighting against others trying to change me.Why would I want to be more like an individual that fits into a system I think is illogical,uncreative,violent and materialistic?
I dont see any difference in this to "trying" to change my sexuality,ethical belief system.I dont hate myself.....I dislike some of the ways I am treated but not enough to try and change myself.That is to much to sacrifice for social acceptance.

I am not a stagnant being.I am always learning and some things change in that process,but the choice of what I want to change is based on what I value not "society values".I could "sacrifice" some of my "aspie traits",but at what cost?I choose to believe that I was created the way I am,for a reason.I guess,I believe in the laws of Alchemy....equivalent exchange.

Look Look I am aspie and I always will be. I will never change my AS ever.

I am a logical minded aspie too, I know why we have been have been put on this planet. And I know that most people with NT syndrome will see Aspergers as an illness or a disability.

I know you are not going to be an NT, but I do believe that you can become more like one 10%-20%. I believe that with the right exercise the new neural pathways will be created.

One approach is to concentrate on one aspect of what an NT for a while month. Maybe eye contact, I am sure if you had the right training you could do this better then an NT.

Another is having good dress sense. This is the easiest thing, I shall not tell you why. But if you do your homework you can dress much better then any NT out there, this is especially true, if you are an American or a woman.

Another month you might want to concentrate on your posture one doing something different every week. Like one week for example you might practice on your walk. Take a 5 mile walk, walk straight and proud bla bla bla.

What do you think.

Removing a significant proportion of my brain cells.

Becoming convinced I need to beg Trinny and Suzannah into my life to sort out the style of my clothes, lest I suffer from terminal lack of esteem by wearing the WRONG THING.



See "removing brain cells", once more...
Become convinced that Sun readers must be right, coz, well, there's a lot of us.



Do you mean "impartial"?
Imperial attitutudes don't go down well with the mob tribalism that is being sought.



Go on, wheel on the lobotomy...
"I'm ready for my ice axe, now, Mr DeMille."

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I think that while practice can solve a lot of the physical aspects (dispraxia, inability to concentrate or multitask, etc) training more abstract aspects such as "normal conversation" is pretty much impossible.

Its too complex to learn more than the basics through rote memorization and even then it will never get any easier.. the more sophisticated your ability to "be NT" (but really just faking it) is the more mental energy it requires to maintain.

Interesting thread. Of course aspies can get better at social stuff, that's the reason old aspies have better social skills than the young ones, conditioning.

Keep one thing in mind, we will always be aspie at the core, so this is a lifetime exercise, you can't expect to exercise one aspect for a month and then stop it and move on to the next one, I think you have do your exercises all together for the rest of your life. But being sociable pays off, so the positive feedback should keep you motivated.

About thinking logically, what I do is to stop thinking at all, never focus on a subject for more than half a second, keep the brain moving. Unless it is necesary, like when programming.

Other thing I do is act in front of a mirror (the body language thing), the objective is to memorize how I look from the outside, so that when I'm in front of an NT I will know what image I am giving with every move I make.

I also practice speaking out loud when I'm alone in my car, I'm getting control of my own voice finally, all these years I was never able to shout something until I started this exercise.

The best thing of all is that you can always go back to being your autistic self in a couple of days (which I do in difficult times of my life).

I think it is admirable that you are trying to 'improve' yourself.

I am in my mid-thirties and have tried many things...
I could consider myself an expert in body-language, posture, eye contact, banter, etc.
But i don't think any of these things will ever become an unconscious process; and so, when i am out 'in the field' they all 'go out of the window', as i can only process one thing at a time ( which would usually be either talking or listening / watching.)
So my knowledge of these things is not only useless, but causes me much anxiety, as i can see how i could have behaved more 'normally' when i anal-yse the situation later.
I think one must learn to accept these 'failures' with utmost detatchment ( maybe even look at them as fun), then anxiety and depression will be avoided. This is what i have difficulty with.

I now ask myself: Do I want to live happy or do i want to conform ?
I don't think i can do both, maybe you can.

Aspie_Chav, is your post sarcasm, or is it a true strategy you plan to try? I'm not entirely sure by your post which it is; but I think it might be sarcasm because you mention copying some mostly-negative traits of NTs (refusing to question the Bible, being prejudiced towards friends and against strangers).

Clarify, please?

NT socializing is like a game of chess, making alliances and attacking competition. It reminds me of those Edwardian to Victorian films were the royal families have nothing better to do but concern themselves with what their friends and enemies are doing. One way to understand the socialising game is to understand the objectives. I assume that one way of staying ahead is to be socially competitive.

· The enemies of the group is your enemy too
· Define you enemies, and then mock them in the group by joking etc.
· Prove to the group you are on their side, without any impartiality to the enemy
· Bond with the group with a group identity, discover what the group have in common
· Remember to mirror their body language.

Finally remember that NT socialising is warfare and NTs have evolved to enjoy the battle because if they didn’t, I am sure that they wouldn’t do quite as well.

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