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19 Nov 2011, 1:30 am

So, I was having an argument with my parents tonight, and they said something the always say when we're in an argument, and that's that I don't seem to have a sense of reality. Whenever we get into an argument, I get really overwhelmed and kind of blow up right away without really knowing what I'm saying. I know how I feel inside, but it just comes out a jumbled, angry mess. The conversation always ends up the same way...with one of them saying to let it go, it's no use arguing with me, because I just can't, or won't stop, and the other one saying that it's because I have no sense of reality. Also, they always say how I take everything out of context and take everything as criticism. Any other aspies experience this?



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19 Nov 2011, 1:50 am

Yes. The same exact thing happens when I argue with my family. I get so emotional during arguements that they can not understand what I am saying.
I also feel that my family ignores everything I say and it angers me to the point that I can't speak properly.



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19 Nov 2011, 1:52 am

It's the CLASH OF THE GENERATIONS! :p



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19 Nov 2011, 1:54 am

artrat wrote:
Yes. The same exact thing happens when I argue with my family. I get so emotional during arguements that they can not understand what I am saying.
I also feel that my family ignores everything I say and it angers me to the point that I can't speak properly.


Good to know I'm not alone. I haven't been officially diagnosed yet, but this has been happening all of my life, and it's just one more thing that seems like it may fit with a diagnosis of AS. I know exactly how you feel. It frustrates me to no end. It seems like just when I get over my anger and frustration, it happens again. I just don't know how to prevent it from happening. :?



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19 Nov 2011, 1:55 am

Kail wrote:
It's the CLASH OF THE GENERATIONS! :p


Hahaha. I guess that's one way of looking at it. :P



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19 Nov 2011, 1:28 pm

dobrolvr wrote:
So, I was having an argument with my parents tonight, and they said something the always say when we're in an argument, and that's that I don't seem to have a sense of reality.

If it's very personal, don't answer, but what is the general topic you are arguing about when your parents say this thing about 'no sense of reality'?


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19 Nov 2011, 2:15 pm

Kail wrote:
It's the CLASH OF THE GENERATIONS! :p


that should of ended the thread



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19 Nov 2011, 4:04 pm

readingbetweenlines wrote:
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So, I was having an argument with my parents tonight, and they said something the always say when we're in an argument, and that's that I don't seem to have a sense of reality.

If it's very personal, don't answer, but what is the general topic you are arguing about when your parents say this thing about 'no sense of reality'?


We don't generally argue about the same topics, though on occasion, we do have repeated arguments. They are generally about very petty things. For instance, the most recent argument we had was about business cards. I was going to order some business cards that I had begun designing about a month or so ago, but the cards I had designed now had a different price than what they originally stated(they were running a special at the time I began designing them). So, instead of them being so many cards for free, they were that same number of cards for $19.99. I then began looking through different design samples trying to find a cheaper one with a similar design. I came across a card with the exact same layout as my original design for $9.99. I then spent time copying all of the details of my original card onto this new one. When I was done, I hit the finish button and then it proceeded to tell me the cards were, in fact, going to be $19.99, as opposed to the $9.99 it had previously stated. I got frustrated, my mom wanted to see if she could fix it, I told her I would just look for a new design(it was kind of like I was saying I wanted something else, or nothing at all. I don't know why, it's just how I felt). Then my mom got upset because I was so frustrated, then my dad chimed in and it turned out how it always does, with them saying I don't listen and I can't take criticism and I have no sense of reality. When we have these arguments, it's usually because I get so frustrated about something(even though, yes, it does seem very silly looking back on it) and then I just sort of explode because I can't get what I want to say across. I just keep repeating myself with no end in sight. It's like a road block between my mouth and brain and all that filters through is anger. I have yet to be formally diagnosed, but is this typical of AS? I'm pretty positive I have it, I'm just unsure as to whether or not this is common. Sorry for being so long winded. :)



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19 Nov 2011, 4:12 pm

To add to my previous post, I do have trouble taking criticism, so that I'll admit to. I always have, and I'm sure I always will. I can't take anyone saying anything critical to me without making some sort of remark about how the other person doesn't have a right to say that particular thing to or about me, because they themselves have a deficit in that particular area. My husband also says I can be very vague in my description of things, even though I think I'm describing them very well. These are things I'm trying my best to work on, but I don't seem to be getting anywhere. Are these common traits of people with AS, or am I just strange?



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19 Nov 2011, 4:25 pm

dobrolvr wrote:
To add to my previous post, I do have trouble taking criticism, so that I'll admit to. I always have, and I'm sure I always will. I can't take anyone saying anything critical to me without making some sort of remark about how the other person doesn't have a right to say that particular thing to or about me, because they themselves have a deficit in that particular area. My husband also says I can be very vague in my description of things, even though I think I'm describing them very well. These are things I'm trying my best to work on, but I don't seem to be getting anywhere. Are these common traits of people with AS, or am I just strange?


Thanks for clarifying. No need to apologise for length of post. From what i've read on other threads hypersensitivity to criticism is fairly common for people with AS.

I think there is also an issue distinguishing real from perceived criticism. Not every comment on another person's behaviour is criticism, it could just be a difference of opinion.

Then of course there are families where absolutely every tiny issue gets turned into a major crisis, sounds to me your folks are a bit like that? Maybe theses arguments are causing you to have mini meltdowns. If you can see this coming, perhaps you could just say," I think we have to agree to disagree here."


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19 Nov 2011, 4:30 pm

readingbetweenlines wrote:
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To add to my previous post, I do have trouble taking criticism, so that I'll admit to. I always have, and I'm sure I always will. I can't take anyone saying anything critical to me without making some sort of remark about how the other person doesn't have a right to say that particular thing to or about me, because they themselves have a deficit in that particular area. My husband also says I can be very vague in my description of things, even though I think I'm describing them very well. These are things I'm trying my best to work on, but I don't seem to be getting anywhere. Are these common traits of people with AS, or am I just strange?


Thanks for clarifying. No need to apologise for length of post. From what i've read on other threads hypersensitivity to criticism is fairly common for people with AS.

I think there is also an issue distinguishing real from perceived criticism. Not every comment on another person's behaviour is criticism, it could just be a difference of opinion.

Then of course there are families where absolutely every tiny issue gets turned into a major crisis, sounds to me your folks are a bit like that? Maybe theses arguments are causing you to have mini meltdowns. If you can see this coming, perhaps you could just say," I think we have to agree to disagree here."


Thanks for the advice,I'll definitely try it. I'm not sure if they turn things into crises or if I just perceive them that way, but it gets me really frustrated and then it builds and builds. I do think that a lot of the criticism I get from them is just perceived criticism, but like you said, most of the time I don't know what's actually criticism and what's not, I just get really defensive and my feelings get hurt and then I dwell on it for a while. I'll have to bring this up when I go in for evaluation. Thanks! :)