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02 Nov 2011, 12:58 pm

The doctors told me i have autism.
She wouldnt give me a true diognoses because of many reasons.
But secretly she told me and my mom togather that i did have autism.
I want to get this wirghten down so avreyone knows but i need to ask something.

What is someone with high funsoning autism like?
Whats diffrent from us and aspergers list some symtombs and exsplane.
So i can get a better understanding about myself thankyou!



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02 Nov 2011, 1:14 pm

....It would help if you at least tried to use proper grammar and spelling. First, HFA Autism is redundant like HIV virus and ATM machine, the final word is included in the acronym. Second, capitalize your I's. Third, double check your spelling. The spelling of some of the words there is causing agony for me.

Anyway, I think the difference is that HFA is a bit more broad, and there are certain requirements for Aspergers that aren't requirements for Autism. HFA is just Autism were the autisic person is considered functional.



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02 Nov 2011, 1:44 pm

I believe one of the differences is that people with Asperger's are usually considered average or above average intelligence. Which would inversely indicate that HFA is below average, so you may want to consider this when picking at people's typing (I know how you feel, though, I am a Grammar Nazi myself.)

Another difference is whether or not a speech delay was present in early development (HFA: yes, Asperger's: no)


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02 Nov 2011, 2:08 pm

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The spelling of some of the words there is causing agony for me.


Aspies tend to try to follow all the rules, and be perfectionistic about it. Proofreading doesn't cause agony for me, though. I just ITCH.

Aspie maxim: "No error may ever be left uncorrected." But since, on the net (or in the Real World) correcting other people is not considered polite, I just spend a lot of time scratching. :(


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02 Nov 2011, 2:13 pm

Speech delay isn't a requirement just as having high IQ doesn't rule out autism. There's been many discussions about the difference here on WP before, I've lost track of it. One thing seems to be sure: in DSM-V Asperger's and autism (including HFA) will be merged into ASD.


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02 Nov 2011, 2:24 pm

myth wrote:
I believe one of the differences is that people with Asperger's are usually considered average or above average intelligence. Which would inversely indicate that HFA is below average, so you may want to consider this when picking at people's typing (I know how you feel, though, I am a Grammar Nazi myself.)

Another difference is whether or not a speech delay was present in early development (HFA: yes, Asperger's: no)


Yeah, I'm a horrible person, I'm sorry about being insensitive, it's just that this time I had trouble understanding what it actually said, so I went a little overboard with my criticism, and I didn't mean to be mean, I was trying to help, but I see that I came across as rather blunt, and it doesn't help that if you are HFA and below average intelligience that I may came across as riducling you. My apologizes.

Anyway, I know that a person with HFA can have average or above average intelligience, so I think I have to go back to what I said about Aspergers being stricter. Essentially Aspergers requires that certain delays/disabilities are not present, and if some of those problems are present, but they aren't severe enough to prevent "functioning", than it's HFA, I guess.



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02 Nov 2011, 2:25 pm

myth wrote:
I believe one of the differences is that people with Asperger's are usually considered average or above average intelligence. Which would inversely indicate that HFA is below average, so you may want to consider this when picking at people's typing (I know how you feel, though, I am a Grammar Nazi myself.)

Another difference is whether or not a speech delay was present in early development (HFA: yes, Asperger's: no)


Yeah, I'm a horrible person, I'm sorry about being insensitive, it's just that this time I had trouble understanding what it actually said, so I went a little overboard with my criticism, and I didn't mean to be mean, I was trying to help, but I see that I came across as rather blunt, and it doesn't help that if you are HFA and below average intelligience that I may came across as riducling you. My apologizes.

Anyway, I know that a person with HFA can have average or above average intelligience, so I think I have to go back to what I said about Aspergers being stricter. Essentially Aspergers requires that certain delays/disabilities are not present, and if some of those problems are present, but they aren't severe enough to prevent "functioning", than it's HFA, I guess.



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02 Nov 2011, 2:35 pm

Functioning labels are kind of useless and not diagnostic at all. So no doctor can diagnose you with HFA- it doesn't exist. There are only autistic disorder, Asperger's, and PDD-NOS.

If you have at least an average IQ (above 85) and had no cognitive, speech, or self-help delays, or no lack of curiosity about the environment, you have Asperger's.

If you had one of the above, you have autism.

The perception is that people with AS are "higher functioning" than people with AD, but this isn't always the case and can be very misleading. People on the spectrum are individuals. Essentially, the two have many of the same symptoms, but people with AD will have more communication challenges as per the DSM and will have the early delays.



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02 Nov 2011, 2:59 pm

myth wrote:
I believe one of the differences is that people with Asperger's are usually considered average or above average intelligence. Which would inversely indicate that HFA is below average, so you may want to consider this when picking at people's typing (I know how you feel, though, I am a Grammar Nazi myself.)

Another difference is whether or not a speech delay was present in early development (HFA: yes, Asperger's: no)

This is incorrect, I'm officially diagnosed with HFA, I inquired about Aspergers but in my country they don't differentiate between the two, and one of the criteria of HFA is average or above-average intelligence (as explained to me).

Pointing out grammatical mistakes is not to be seen as rude unless it's done in an insulting manner. Simply pointing them out and presenting the correct form is primarily a helpful gesture.


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02 Nov 2011, 4:09 pm

ridiculing

sorry, I couldn't help it. You may mock me anytime you want. :wink:


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02 Nov 2011, 4:26 pm

OJani wrote:
ridiculing

sorry, I couldn't help it. You may mock me anytime you want. :wink:


*GASP* I made a typo! Fetch me my katana so that I may perform seppuku!

Correct if I am wrong, but should't that "s" in "sorry" be capitalized?



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02 Nov 2011, 4:56 pm

Ganondox wrote:
OJani wrote:
ridiculing

sorry, I couldn't help it. You may mock me anytime you want. :wink:


*GASP* I made a typo! Fetch me my katana so that I may perform seppuku!

Correct if I am wrong, but should't that "s" in "sorry" be capitalized?

You've got a devil... Shoot, I made that error deliberately. :D



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02 Nov 2011, 5:43 pm

Go easy, I think the kid actually has trouble spelling. In his/her previous posts they do sound like they are classically autistic.

I think I may give a shot at answering the question.

Asperger's is seen as the most highest functioning type of autism even if 90% of the forum doesn't agree. They are usually fast to talk, walk and curios at a young age. In autism there is a speech delay from 2-5 years, sometimes more. If you had a speech delay chances are you will get the HFA label, if you didn't chances are you will get AS. In the end it's up to the doctor diagnosing you.

From what I've seen people with HFA have more physical rigidity. By that I mean they don't look relaxed when they stand. They have more learning problems. They may have no interest in socialising at first or have very narrow interests and not be curious about anything outside of them. They really have difficulty even knowing when someone is happy or sad. They usually have less awareness about themselves so have less anxiety.

Right, now people can commence the flaming while I go eat a sandwich because I care so much about what they think.


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02 Nov 2011, 6:09 pm

Lecks wrote:
myth wrote:
I believe one of the differences is that people with Asperger's are usually considered average or above average intelligence. Which would inversely indicate that HFA is below average, so you may want to consider this when picking at people's typing (I know how you feel, though, I am a Grammar Nazi myself.)

Another difference is whether or not a speech delay was present in early development (HFA: yes, Asperger's: no)

This is incorrect, I'm officially diagnosed with HFA, I inquired about Aspergers but in my country they don't differentiate between the two, and one of the criteria of HFA is average or above-average intelligence (as explained to me).

Pointing out grammatical mistakes is not to be seen as rude unless it's done in an insulting manner. Simply pointing them out and presenting the correct form is primarily a helpful gesture.




HFA too here. Doesn't seem to be that common tbh.

Btw lecks, off topic i know, but where did you get your screenname from? Does it mean something in Belgium at all? The only reason i ask, ive encountered someone else from Belgium (within wow) that also went by the same screen name. Any belgiumy specific reason for both of you to have the same name?



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02 Nov 2011, 6:34 pm

It does kind of depend on the doctor who's diagnosing the affected person, doesn't it? :chin:

Not only am I an Aspie, but I am a huge Grammar Nazi as well. I have to restrain myself when I peer edit other people's assignments. (One guy didn't know how to spell athlete, and I kinda got on him for that. :oops:)


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02 Nov 2011, 6:37 pm

MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
It does kind of depend on the doctor who's diagnosing the affected person, doesn't it? :chin:

Not only am I an Aspie, but I am a huge Grammar Nazi as well. I have to restrain myself when I peer edit other people's assignments. (One guy didn't know how to spell athlete, and I kinda got on him for that. :oops:)


Being a grammar nazi is kinda bullying tbh. I'm pretty ruthless with bullies irl, they're the only people that it's fair to bully. I wish i was that guy, i'd have given you death (said in the nicest possible ot way :) ).



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