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29 Sep 2006, 3:35 am

i tend to be very apathic. i do feel and i do desire, but i never show any sign of emotion, and i dont really feel anything i would actually call emotion. and i have this indifference towards anything of practical value, and that really bothers me, i screw everything up because of it. everything.

i feel like, anyone i know could just die and i wouldnt feel bad, except for practical reasons. iv never had feelings for anyone, and if i care for someone, its only on a rational basis.

i dont know anyone that can relate to this, or even understands, so i thought...is there anyone here that is bothered in a similar way?



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29 Sep 2006, 4:47 am

That is exactly how I feel


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29 Sep 2006, 4:57 am

so at least im not alone...



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29 Sep 2006, 6:22 am

i sometimes feel like that. I think a lot of eople with AS feel like that.


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29 Sep 2006, 6:43 am

I think I'm more attached to people than you are, hypermind, though whether this is 'genuine' friendship or simply because they are useful to me I don't know. Is it possible to separate the two? Surely all interpersonal relationships are based on mutual support and so 'usefulness' is a factor for everyone?

I definitely don't value material possessions in the same way as other people, though. I detest the whole idea of "conspicuous consumption" - buying things just to impress other people: this is ridiculous. The inequalities in the world really wind me up, too. There is no need to buy clothes costing thousands of pounds when people are starving. There can be no justification for earning more than £100,000 a year, no matter how clever you are or how stressful your position is. Anything above that is just obscene. No point in owning 3 houses when people are homeless.

Aaaarrrggghhhh this makes me so annoyed!


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29 Sep 2006, 8:21 am

I have apathy when thinking about things in my own mind, but when it comes to waking up to reality I can do it and I feel much better inside.


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29 Sep 2006, 8:21 am

so your a communist then?
and i sure agree btw, however much a sidetrack it is



i see now, i should v posted this in haven, i think.



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29 Sep 2006, 8:23 am

No, I am talking about my real life.


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29 Sep 2006, 5:45 pm

yeah sorry i didnt mean you, you posted only 1 minute before me, so i hadnt seen you post.

i meant sociable hermit



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29 Sep 2006, 5:55 pm

Isn't this a part of schizoid personality?



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29 Sep 2006, 6:40 pm

hypermind wrote:
so your a communist then?
and i sure agree btw, however much a sidetrack it is.


Communism is a great concept but relies too heavily on people being nice, and being honest. Sadly, people aren't like that. I think capitalism is the most realistic way of organisng a society, but I do belive it should be controlled to avoid the extremes of inequality and greed that we have at the moment. I don't care what anyone says - no one NEEDS to earn over £100,000 a year. Why not share out any surplus profit equally across the workforce, so that everyone gets an extra £10 a month or whatever? It wouldn't be much, but it would certainly help those on the poverty line much more than it would improve the life of an MD who is more than comfortable already. £50,000 is nothing to a rich man, but £500 each is a lot of money for 1,000 skint people.

The point I was trying to make is that I'm not really profit-motivated so I tend to be viewed as apathetic when it comes to sales targets and the like, because I'm just not interested. I don't feel the need to compete with anyone, plus it's pointless when society is so obviously rigged so that the rich get richer. I'd rather consider the quality and morality of what I'm doing than the profit margin. People are more important than coins.


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29 Sep 2006, 9:00 pm

yeah i allways hate when people naturally assume that everyone has the same materialistic ambitions. there are plenty of people that dont and i actively despise anyone that does.

time for a new hippy movement id say.

and i stick by my belief that sociaty does not have to be capitalism ruled. plutocracy is a nightmare, worse then bureaucracy.

there are many forms of communism, i dont think all are necessarily unpractical. communism is the political term for materialistic egalitarianism. this can go two ways: the totalitarian or even fascistic direction; or the liberal or even the more anarchistic direction. the last would resemble utopia, but has potentially as much problems as the fascistic version, but there has to be a way this would work. this one is indeed fragile, as anarchy on a large scale is obviously a bad idea. still there are anarchistic communities that have proven to work, so there has to be a way. also anarchistic forms of communism arent necessarily truely anarchistic. but else just stick to the liberal democratic version.
fascism is obviously out of the question.



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29 Sep 2006, 9:41 pm

I don't really laugh very often. I smile, especially at my own witticisms, but I rarely laugh out loud.



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30 Sep 2006, 12:45 pm

werbert wrote:
I don't really laugh very often. I smile, especially at my own witticisms, but I rarely laugh out loud.


Yeah... I understand... they're not that funny, really, are they? :twisted:


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30 Sep 2006, 3:10 pm

I walked right into that one.



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30 Sep 2006, 6:53 pm

:D


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