I am having my ASD diagnoses rescinded.

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17 Nov 2011, 3:28 pm

Over the last year I have become an expert on Aspergers Syndrome, I am also - in the words of my psychiatrist - an expert on myself, I have therefore concluded that I do not fit the diagnostic criteria, for perhaps three salient reasons.

Reason the first: I did not fulfill the diagnostic criteria as a child or young teenager. Though I was indeed odd at time I was an extroverted boy with several friends as a child - I heavilly engaged in social play and was well liked, if not thought of as eccentric. I was not clumsy or hypersenetive as a child. In high school I did not have friends at all, leaving the impression perhaps that I had difficulty socialising - not true, I did not have friends because I developed school phobia/school refusal and barely went in. I deliberatly exagerated childhood faults to get a diagnoses because I believed it would lead to faster recovery, thus throwing off my pdocs.

Second of all: I am not "socially clumsy", I am deliberatly blunt, rude and snarky to certain people and quite amicable towards others. I am quite capable of social conversation, I simply choose not to engage in it.

Trice: I do not have an intense/repetitive/all encompassing interest outside the norm.

The first is obviously the most important, it means that I was an NT for much of my life, making a diagnoses impossible.

So what has happened to me over the past year? What changed? What IS wrong with me? There has been a fundamental change in my behavior, affect and thought, it happens to mimic ASD and I am left here now without clarity, I have only myself to blame really.
I am currently under investigation for developing schizophrenia and am taking a prodromal psychosis test next week.

So I'm left wondering where that leaves me in regard to WP, guess I'll stick around, my indentification with ASD everyday problems remains true.

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17 Nov 2011, 3:33 pm

It's terribly important to have self-understanding. I support your quest. You have as much need to know as the rest of us. Please post as you learn more. Thanks!


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17 Nov 2011, 4:03 pm

I don't know how you can be considered schizophrenic when you have so much insight into yourself. I always thought schizophrenics had little insight, and even presume nothing is wrong with them.



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17 Nov 2011, 4:17 pm

Robdemanc wrote:
I don't know how you can be considered schizophrenic when you have so much insight into yourself. I always thought schizophrenics had little insight, and even presume nothing is wrong with them.


I'm not considered schizophrenic and there is a lot you don't know.

To be frank I could be completely delusional, hallucinatory and wearing a tin foil hat and you wouldn't know, I wouldn't have typed it.
Consider..someone diagnosed with some sort of psychotic disorder, he types down why he doesn't have ASD rather succinctly, that really doesn't say much about his actual state of mind.

About 40% of those with schizophrenia have insight. (compared to about 60% bipolars).


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17 Nov 2011, 4:41 pm

You have ASD traits. There are people 'round here who are broader-autistic-phenotype, or have ASD traits, and who have more in common with autistics than with NTs despite not being diagnosable. If you like it here, you like hanging out with us, then stay. It's not like this is an autistic-only club. Anybody tries to hang a "no NTs allowed" sign, I'll smack 'em in the face. Anyway, we need lots of different perspectives if we're to get the full picture on anything.

I don't know if anything is wrong with you at all. People make choices; you choose to be rude to some people. That's not a psychological disorder.

BTW, if you do develop schizophrenia--I don't know if you've heard this yet, but the absolute best outcome is always found among people whose schizophrenia is caught early and treated; and the meds are the most effective at stopping relapses in that group. So you'd be in that top-outcome group. Maybe that's encouraging to you, I dunno.

What you do share with the rest of us is probably the experience of being different from others; and that's a bigger thing than it might seem at first. In RL, I'm in a support group at my school for people with disabilities; and I'm the only one there (out of about a half-dozen people) who doesn't have a physical disability. And yet, I share so much with them--even the ones whose disabilities are physical only--because we all have disabilities and that puts us all just slightly outside the culture around us. That shared experience lets us help each other with practical, everyday problems. Our different disabilities don't really stop us from doing that. So, if it turns out you are not autistic, whether you're NT or whether you've got something else, there's no reason why you wouldn't benefit from WP, and help others here as well.


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17 Nov 2011, 4:59 pm

Callista wrote:
You have ASD traits. There are people 'round here who are broader-autistic-phenotype, or have ASD traits, and who have more in common with autistics than with NTs despite not being diagnosable. If you like it here, you like hanging out with us, then stay. It's not like this is an autistic-only club. Anybody tries to hang a "no NTs allowed" sign, I'll smack 'em in the face. Anyway, we need lots of different perspectives if we're to get the full picture on anything.

I don't know if anything is wrong with you at all. People make choices; you choose to be rude to some people. That's not a psychological disorder.

BTW, if you do develop schizophrenia--I don't know if you've heard this yet, but the absolute best outcome is always found among people whose schizophrenia is caught early and treated; and the meds are the most effective at stopping relapses in that group. So you'd be in that top-outcome group. Maybe that's encouraging to you, I dunno.

What you do share with the rest of us is probably the experience of being different from others; and that's a bigger thing than it might seem at first. In RL, I'm in a support group at my school for people with disabilities; and I'm the only one there (out of about a half-dozen people) who doesn't have a physical disability. And yet, I share so much with them--even the ones whose disabilities are physical only--because we all have disabilities and that puts us all just slightly outside the culture around us. That shared experience lets us help each other with practical, everyday problems. Our different disabilities don't really stop us from doing that. So, if it turns out you are not autistic, whether you're NT or whether you've got something else, there's no reason why you wouldn't benefit from WP, and help others here as well.
Now that's what I'm talkin' about! Nice little speech there, Callista.



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17 Nov 2011, 6:59 pm

Callista wrote:
You have ASD traits. There are people 'round here who are broader-autistic-phenotype, or have ASD traits, and who have more in common with autistics than with NTs despite not being diagnosable. If you like it here, you like hanging out with us, then stay. It's not like this is an autistic-only club. Anybody tries to hang a "no NTs allowed" sign, I'll smack 'em in the face. Anyway, we need lots of different perspectives if we're to get the full picture on anything.

I don't know if anything is wrong with you at all. People make choices; you choose to be rude to some people. That's not a psychological disorder.

BTW, if you do develop schizophrenia--I don't know if you've heard this yet, but the absolute best outcome is always found among people whose schizophrenia is caught early and treated; and the meds are the most effective at stopping relapses in that group. So you'd be in that top-outcome group. Maybe that's encouraging to you, I dunno.

What you do share with the rest of us is probably the experience of being different from others; and that's a bigger thing than it might seem at first. In RL, I'm in a support group at my school for people with disabilities; and I'm the only one there (out of about a half-dozen people) who doesn't have a physical disability. And yet, I share so much with them--even the ones whose disabilities are physical only--because we all have disabilities and that puts us all just slightly outside the culture around us. That shared experience lets us help each other with practical, everyday problems. Our different disabilities don't really stop us from doing that. So, if it turns out you are not autistic, whether you're NT or whether you've got something else, there's no reason why you wouldn't benefit from WP, and help others here as well.


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