Why all the emphasis on friends and social?

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11 Dec 2011, 3:00 pm

I was watching several videos on You Tube about getting into vet school and "surviving" and pretty much all them say the same thing about vistining your family whenever possible and making friends and I've heard before that vet school is very "loney". Then why don't these people become doctors? If they truely loved animals as much as they claim too, they'd perfer the company of animals as opposed to people. Lonliness is a feeling I have never expirenced. I have a brother I've practicaly disowned becuase he was always so mean to me, my dad is a bully, and I've never really felt any sort of connection to the rest of my family. I've never had any true desire for friends of the human variety. So if the hardest thing about vet school is the "lonliness" and these "social yackety-yaks" stay out of my way and leave me alone, vet school is probaly going to be a breeze.

Anyway, why is everyone so obsessed with socalizing?


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11 Dec 2011, 3:11 pm

In your situation I dont really know.

But in general: perhaps its cause we want what we dont have. We see everyone socializing around us and it makes you want friends to be normal. See NTs are not as concentrated consciously on socializing and friends, they just go out there and do it. But there are other things that NTs can get fixated on that they dont have. Like my friend is overly fixated on money cause she doesnt have it. Some women are overly fixated on there appearance cause they think there ugly. Some people are overly fixated on being successful because they dont feel like they measure up.



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11 Dec 2011, 3:14 pm

Idk :huh: Seriously, have no clue. However, I do feel constant "existential" loneliness. And I cannot conect with anyone let alone animals. Maybe ideas. And I didn't feel that alone when I had people around me - family, acquaintances and stuff - I jus't disliked them but now when I don't it's really starting to get to me.



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11 Dec 2011, 3:41 pm

Been wondering about this many times, too. Same goes for all the dating and relationship stuff. Never felt lonely, never felt jealous, the only beings i really love are my cats.

One explanation is that NT's immediately start feeling terribly lost if they realize they are alone. The whole society is a result of how people relate to each other in a positive as well as negative way. Each war is about the same topic: You are different, you are not like any of us, thus you are an enemy and we have the right to kill you.

If the videos you've been watching are about freshmen, the clues on social matters could be meant to comfort them if they are living alone for the first time.



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11 Dec 2011, 3:45 pm

Dat Schizoid Personality Disorder?


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11 Dec 2011, 3:55 pm

Simple explanation:

Because socialization feels good to most extroverted NTs.

I've just learned to accept it even though I can't empathize.


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11 Dec 2011, 6:25 pm

SilverTung wrote:
Dat Schizoid Personality Disorder?


I've always suspected I may have that; but in reality, I think it's just an outdated description of Asperger's Syndrome.


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11 Dec 2011, 6:36 pm

I was pretty much disowned by my own family, yet forced every day to watch how much better they were than me from 100 yards up the road...it may have been better if I had been put into foster care miles away...imagine being apart from your family yet still forced to watch them having everything you could never have and being forced into a situation where they and everyone they knew could bully you and beat you down every moment of every day?

I have nothing but contempt to this day for the whole family thing, Christmas is especially hard as all I hear at this time of year how everyone is so much better than me...if only one person in my family had listened to when I said certain things, I would probably the ... bollocks to it, you do not need to know.


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11 Dec 2011, 7:27 pm

I'm curious about the differences between Aspies on WP.

I've read that in Europe AS is diely diagnosed in people who have very little social impairments.

I haven't been able to find A LOT of info on this but I've seen the idea supported and confirmed by some people on WP in the past.

Maybe some European Aspies here coudl describe how they feel they are different than the American "portarit" of AS?

It's said that American Aspies who are diagnosed are usually wallflower types.

Also curious about Aspies from other places.

Japanese Aspies? How do yu feel that AS is viewed or dignosed differently in Japan?



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11 Dec 2011, 7:29 pm

I'm curious about the differences between Aspies on WP.

I've read that in Europe AS is diely diagnosed in people who have very little social impairments.

I haven't been able to find A LOT of info on this but I've seen the idea supported and confirmed by some people on WP in the past.

Maybe some European Aspies here coudl describe how they feel they are different than the American "portarit" of AS?

It's said that American Aspies who are diagnosed are usually wallflower types.

Also curious about Aspies from other places.

Japanese Aspies? How do yu feel that AS is viewed or dignosed differently in Japan?



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11 Dec 2011, 7:31 pm

I'm curious about the differences between Aspies on WP.

I've read that in Europe AS is diely diagnosed in people who have very little social impairments.

I haven't been able to find A LOT of info on this but I've seen the idea supported and confirmed by some people on WP in the past.

Maybe some European Aspies here coudl describe how they feel they are different than the American "portarit" of AS?

It's said that American Aspies who are diagnosed are usually wallflower types.

Also curious about Aspies from other places.

Japanese Aspies? How do yu feel that AS is viewed or dignosed differently in Japan?



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11 Dec 2011, 7:32 pm

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11 Dec 2011, 8:44 pm

Maybe it's lonely to them because they are used to having friends around. Maybe they are used to having their family around and they love their family. Many people enjoy their family's company.

Also, if they are away at college living in a dorm they can't have pets. Even if they have always been loners and never had much interaction with their family and had a lot of pets for company at home, they couldn't have them while away at school, so they would be lonely too.

Someone else said that those were mainly Freshmen, so they probably haven't been there long enough to make friends yet. Also, the work load is probably heavy, so they don't have time to be with what friends they do make, or call their families.

The emphasis on socializing is I suppose the need for human contact. Even people on WP obviously have it, because otherwise none of us would be posting in a forum with other people. It's online yes, but it's still human contact. Some people prefer to be out and about with friends all the time, others prefer sometimes, still others prefer to communicate online with others when they desire contact. The only people that really desire no human contact of any sort are probably hermit types, even some who go to jobs and have to deal with people, because during their free time they do not seek out any interaction of any sort with any other human being, whether that be writing a snail mail letter to their mother, or posting on a forum, or going to a chatroom, or answering personal email or getting on Facebook, or calling someone on the phone for any reason other than is absolutely needed.

I think there are many people who very much dislike face to face or voice to voice human contact but enjoy contact via forums, emails, and MMRPG's.


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11 Dec 2011, 8:58 pm

For some reason it seems that NT's do everything together :D
They cannot make a move without someone holding their hand.



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11 Dec 2011, 10:50 pm

I've wondered the same thing. A psychologist I spoke to two years and a bit ago described me as a person who was happy to have friends, but didn't 'need' them, which I must agree with. I have friends, yes, but I feel that if they all suddenly moved to another country and broke contact with me or something, the only real difference would be that I'd be bored more often - and the same result can be predicted from the case of me having one less video game.



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11 Dec 2011, 11:00 pm

Tiranasta wrote:
I've wondered the same thing. A psychologist I spoke to two years and a bit ago described me as a person who was happy to have friends, but didn't 'need' them, which I must agree with. I have friends, yes, but I feel that if they all suddenly moved to another country and broke contact with me or something, the only real difference is that I'd be bored more often - and the same result can be predicted from the case of me having one less video game.


I only enjoy contact with other people if I can talk about my obsessions. If I can't, I feel suffocated. I always found it easier to get things done without other people around. I often avoid going certian places because I don't want people trying to start conversations with me. "Friendly" people creep me out more than people who aren't. Everyone is telling me I will never be able to handle vet school because of all the other people. I am not going there to make friends and as long as these "social yackety-yacks" leave me alone and stay out of of my face, I will be fine.


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