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lilbuddah
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12 Dec 2011, 1:13 pm

I've been lurking around these forums for a while now and there is a SERIOUS doom and gloom vibe, every other thread is just "woe is me" or "I can't look people in the eye and hold up a proper conversation" well y'know what? Neither can I! But that doesn't stop me from being weird, eccentric an liked.

What I'm saying is that even though most of us AS people are socially awkward around just about anyone but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy that does it? Instead of curling back into a little ball like all of us have done at some point be spontaneous! Make wild statements, if you think that wall looks damned cool then tell someone! See something colourful? Show it to someone, they'll find it fascinating! Life is way too boring for us so why not do something about it? I defy you gloomy effers to give me one reason not to be happy instead of all of this doom and gloom borcht! Sorry if this is a bit off grammar wise but I'm not exactly well...sober right now. But this had to be said.



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12 Dec 2011, 1:23 pm

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I've been lurking around these forums for a while now and there is a SERIOUS doom and gloom vibe, every other thread is just "woe is me" or "I can't look people in the eye and hold up a proper conversation" well y'know what? Neither can I! But that doesn't stop me from being weird, eccentric an liked.

What I'm saying is that even though most of us AS people are socially awkward around just about anyone but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy that does it? Instead of curling back into a little ball like all of us have done at some point be spontaneous! Make wild statements, if you think that wall looks damned cool then tell someone! See something colourful? Show it to someone, they'll find it fascinating! Life is way too boring for us so why not do something about it? I defy you gloomy effers to give me one reason not to be happy instead of all of this doom and gloom borcht! Sorry if this is a bit off grammar wise but I'm not exactly well...sober right now. But this had to be said.


Well you might want to keep in mind some of us here have horrible co-morbid disorders like anxiety, depression, PTSD ect, which can really put a damper on being happy. If you're happy with your life great but people do sometimes have valid reasons for being a little bit gloomy.


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12 Dec 2011, 1:25 pm

I don't see doom and gloom, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. I mostly see people with questions and concerns about their habits/traits/thought processes seeking understanding and coping. I would think the truly upset/unhappy because wouldn't care enough to post in a forum - they would ball up in the corner and refuse to learn more about themselves.

In other words, I see a lot of hope and promise. But my glass is usually half-full, so I attribute my POV to any conversations I witness. Have to - text by itself tends to have no more emotion to it than what you give it.


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12 Dec 2011, 1:36 pm

Negativity is common with people on the spectrum (myself included), so it's hardly suprising that you see what you're seeing. Also bear in mind that it is mainly intended to be a support site, so people who are not feeling down about something may not even visit at all.

In any case, the random section of the forum is usually much more light-hearted...


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12 Dec 2011, 1:36 pm

All I'm seeing are people worrying that their quirks and habits are bad, that sucks! Especially if you're not even aware of the good side of AS. Too many people focus on the negatives here, ironically most people consider themselves to be outside of the rest of society which is complete borcht since focussing on the negatives is one of the most human things I can think of. I absolutely refuse to accept all these claims trying to justify being mopey, I know it's a cliché but you are as happy as you choose to be.

@tenpenpiece: I've been to the random board and nobody seems that happy, if this is a support site then where is the support? "oh, I have the same quirk as you, lets take solace in that we're not totally dissimilar and carry on being mopey" Not good enough! Support is supposed to make people feel happy and good about themselves and that's what I'm saying we should be doing.



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12 Dec 2011, 1:39 pm

I hear you. I'm okay with my traits no matter how odd they may be to some people. They're what make me an interesting person and why would I WANT to be normal? Normal is boring! But I'm now an adult who's no longer in school where they try hard to pressure you not to be yourself and force you into situations that make you anxious or feel stupid. Gym class, anyone?
However, it wasn't that long ago before my diagnosis when my life had hit rock bottom and was kicked out of the home I lived in and then left alone to die at the hospital...a week before Christmas.
I was diagnosed with Asperger's sometime after the New Year (I was around 25) and even after that I was in awful shape for what felt like eternity. The depression, the anxiety, the rage and meltdowns, the medications and their horrible, horrible side effects... but that's all in the past now, and I've really come a long way.



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12 Dec 2011, 1:43 pm

AHA! Finally someone who can look up, I'm only 17 but, for the most part, I know what you mean, I've been on meds before and that sucked so much, I've been knocked(literally, and with a piece of bloody wood) between schools and all I've learnt from that is we can't do anything but be happy.



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12 Dec 2011, 1:45 pm

lilbuddah wrote:
All I'm seeing are people worrying that their quirks and habits are bad, that sucks! Especially if you're not even aware of the good side of AS. Too many people focus on the negatives here, ironically most people consider themselves to be outside of the rest of society which is complete borcht since focussing on the negatives is one of the most human things I can think of. I absolutely refuse to accept all these claims trying to justify being mopey, I know it's a cliché but you are as happy as you choose to be.


Well that is not exactly true.......I am aware there are some positives about me and I do try to focus on things I like. However I have a lot more going on than AS and its these other things that really make it difficult to enjoy things. The AS causes me to come off as a bit weird so as a child I got picked on and that further contributed to the problems I have now but hey I am who I am and that does not bother me.

However I think I have every right to feel down considering the things I deal with and have dealt with....and I cannot choose to 'be happy' if I don't have the ability to feel that which a lot of times I don't that is what depression can do to you. If it was as simple as choosing to be happy the mental disorder depression would not even exist.


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12 Dec 2011, 1:48 pm

Give this a try. It works, but it's going to take admitting your own negative attitude.

If you've got a positive attitude yourself, you'll be more in tune to positive energies that surround you. If you have a negative attitude, that is what you are more likely to see in others.

There is plenty of positivity on WP. If you tune in to the positive and look for it, you'll find it.

The fact is, AS causes difficulties. People come here to learn how to deal with them. You can't deal with a difficulty if you don't admit it exists, so people come here to admit it first, then seek help. I don't see anything negative about that, but that's because I choose to view it in a positive light.

If you don't like reading about people's problems, which is what most of us come here to discuss, there are millions of other forums you could spend your time on. Maybe you don't have a problem with AS. Fine. Most of us do, and that's why we're here. You really can't expect thousands of users to suddenly start denying they have problems they know they have just because some people don't want to hear about them.

You could either learn to tune into the positive here, by exercising your own positivity, and bypass the stuff that drags you down, or stop coming here. That is your own choice to make as much as it is the choice of others to look their own demons in the face and deal with them. Facing our demons is a very big part of why WP exists.

You're not going to change anything by insisting that everyone just "stop it." The reality of AS is not that simple.


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12 Dec 2011, 1:51 pm

lilbuddah wrote:
I've been lurking around these forums for a while now and there is a SERIOUS doom and gloom vibe, every other thread is just "woe is me" or "I can't look people in the eye and hold up a proper conversation" well y'know what? Neither can I! But that doesn't stop me from being weird, eccentric an liked.

What I'm saying is that even though most of us AS people are socially awkward around just about anyone but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy that does it? Instead of curling back into a little ball like all of us have done at some point be spontaneous! Make wild statements, if you think that wall looks damned cool then tell someone! See something colourful? Show it to someone, they'll find it fascinating! Life is way too boring for us so why not do something about it? I defy you gloomy effers to give me one reason not to be happy instead of all of this doom and gloom borcht! Sorry if this is a bit off grammar wise but I'm not exactly well...sober right now. But this had to be said.

This happens to most of us at one point in time or two.
Good news is, the more you hang around, the more You will change that outlook.
Society can be a moody creature, if it only took it's Prozac on time, I could throw mine away.


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12 Dec 2011, 1:56 pm

Well now, I think you do have a right to feel however you want sweetleaf, feelings and sentiment are spread pretty thin amongst aspies, thing is do you really want to feel down? Is being depressed and angsty really so nice that you don't even want to be happy? So you were bullied? so what? You really want to dwell on that? I wouldn't, I did, I regret that and now I don't, that simple.



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12 Dec 2011, 2:02 pm

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Good news is, the more you hang around, the more You will change that outlook.


Exactly! Have you heard, "If you build it they will come."?

This is also true: "If you look hard enough, you will find what you seek." There is a lot of positivity here, but you've got to tune yourself into it and look for it. If you do, you will find it. Skip over the stuff that gets you down, it's not that hard if you just put your own positive attitude to work.


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Society can be a moody creature, if it only took it's Prozac on time, I could throw mine away.


:lol: That's too funny.


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12 Dec 2011, 2:07 pm

MrXxx wrote:
Give this a try. It works, but it's going to take admitting your own negative attitude.

If you've got a positive attitude yourself, you'll be more in tune to positive energies that surround you. If you have a negative attitude, that is what you are more likely to see in others.

There is plenty of positivity on WP. If you tune in to the positive and look for it, you'll find it.

The fact is, AS causes difficulties. People come here to learn how to deal with them. You can't deal with a difficulty if you don't admit it exists, so people come here to admit it first, then seek help. I don't see anything negative about that, but that's because I choose to view it in a positive light.

If you don't like reading about people's problems, which is what most of us come here to discuss, there are millions of other forums you could spend your time on. Maybe you don't have a problem with AS. Fine. Most of us do, and that's why we're here. You really can't expect thousands of users to suddenly start denying they have problems they know they have just because some people don't want to hear about them.

You could either learn to tune into the positive here, by exercising your own positivity, and bypass the stuff that drags you down, or stop coming here. That is your own choice to make as much as it is the choice of others to look their own demons in the face and deal with them. Facing our demons is a very big part of why WP exists.

You're not going to change anything by insisting that everyone just "stop it." The reality of AS is not that simple.


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Our world has become a matter of convenience over compassion. It's been so hard for me to even come out with problems or emotions that now that I finally can, it's liberating. On the other hand, I try not to drag others down and through actually forcing myself to try to see things through other people's perspective there has been great gains in understanding other people. It's not fair that I hope others understand me if I don't at least try to understand others.

I'd much rather have a hug when sad than someone putting me on drugs thinking it's some magical solve all cure. It makes me think about just how our society revolves so much around convenience and money that people have left compassion locked away somewhere.

Sounding like a broken record and realizing I sound like a broken record has enabled me to find another solution.



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12 Dec 2011, 2:08 pm

lilbuddah wrote:
I've been lurking around these forums for a while now and there is a SERIOUS doom and gloom vibe, every other thread is just "woe is me" or "I can't look people in the eye and hold up a proper conversation" well y'know what? Neither can I! But that doesn't stop me from being weird, eccentric an liked.

What I'm saying is that even though most of us AS people are socially awkward around just about anyone but that doesn't mean we can't enjoy that does it? Instead of curling back into a little ball like all of us have done at some point be spontaneous! Make wild statements, if you think that wall looks damned cool then tell someone! See something colourful? Show it to someone, they'll find it fascinating! Life is way too boring for us so why not do something about it? I defy you gloomy effers to give me one reason not to be happy instead of all of this doom and gloom borcht! Sorry if this is a bit off grammar wise but I'm not exactly well...sober right now. But this had to be said.


Keeping aspies down is desirous by some here..... too much health corporation money involved.... Many members even support this unconsciously.

Apart from all that.... some decent information and discussion abounds, prolly less than 10%.... thats better than television anyways



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12 Dec 2011, 2:15 pm

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Well now, I think you do have a right to feel however you want sweetleaf, feelings and sentiment are spread pretty thin amongst aspies, thing is do you really want to feel down? Is being depressed and angsty really so nice that you don't even want to be happy? So you were bullied? so what? You really want to dwell on that? I wouldn't, I did, I regret that and now I don't, that simple.


No I don't particularly enjoy feeling down....but I have Depression, Anxiety and PTSD so feeling down is something I have to deal with wether I like it or not. There are some escapes which I take full advantage of.......sometimes at the risk of my health, and some days are better than others.

I don't know that happy is what I am after either, as I probably lack the enthusiasm to actually feel 'happy', now being content is something I like to experiance so I would settle for being more content but again thats easier said than done. And yes I was bullied lots simply because I was a bit different and people are jerks I don't really dwell on it but the memories and damage that was done are not going to dissappear so it does enter my mind sometimes.


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12 Dec 2011, 2:18 pm

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I don't see doom and gloom, but maybe I'm looking in the wrong places. I mostly see people with questions and concerns about their habits/traits/thought processes seeking understanding and coping. I would think the truly upset/unhappy because wouldn't care enough to post in a forum - they would ball up in the corner and refuse to learn more about themselves.

In other words, I see a lot of hope and promise. But my glass is usually half-full, so I attribute my POV to any conversations I witness. Have to - text by itself tends to have no more emotion to it than what you give it.



This is a support forum and I doubt they would post about it on a none support forum.