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22 Dec 2011, 11:22 pm

If an NT is deprived of social learning during formative years, how would they turn out? Not total social deprivation to the point language is not developed, but enough that non verbal communication is not learned and communicating with others is limited. How would this person end up in terms of personality and functioning?

Refridgerator mothers were once said to be the cause of autism, and I'm not suggesting this; I'd just wonder what happens if an NT person doesn't get a chance to pick up natural social cues. How similar and different to autism would it be?



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22 Dec 2011, 11:52 pm

Lots of stories about kids growing up wild. Harder to find a real one. I say let's experiment.



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22 Dec 2011, 11:59 pm

There's lots of kids running wild. But, check out reactive attachment disorder. This is what happens when a child has its physical needs met, but doesn't have the chance to attach to anyone. Rumanian orphanages are one sources. It's not pretty. It resembles sociopathy more than autism.


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23 Dec 2011, 12:12 am

To tell the truth, I blame my own mother for the way I and my brother turned out. It makes sense, to me at least. My dad was working and going to school while my mom was a stay at home mom. I didn't learn until a few years ago that the reason they divorced when I was 7 was because she was cheating on my dad, and then even more recently, I discovered that it had been with multiple different men. Anyways, I am technically borderline, and I know that my mother didn't really give me a lot of attention, and when I look at my brother who for sure, been tested and certifiably Asperger's, he would have had even less attention growing up than I did.

My dad also seems to have aspergers, and from what I know about his parents, is that he didn't really get a lot of attention from them either and even less so the older he got, and I can see that his older brothers are more normal than him and that his younger brothers are worse than him. I don't know if it would be genetic since I don't really know how my grandparents grew up and don't see asperger traits there.

I think that it is a definite factor in having a child with Asperger's, but since it also appears at such a young age, it could also be genetic. I really only know my own situation though.



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23 Dec 2011, 12:38 am

That wouldn't cause AS, but lack of attention and caring can definitely cause problems. All kids need love and discipline. Moms and dads who love their kids and give them all the attention in the world still have autistic kids.


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23 Dec 2011, 3:40 am

I went selectively mute when I was 8 to 17 so I wasn't exactly socially deprived but I very much did not interact with my peers during very important formative years leaving me socially/emotionally very clueless. However I am aspie. I would guess at most, being socially deprived might create aspie like behavior(socially clueless, withdrawn) for sometime. But once the NT is placed back in the environment for a long enough period(1-2yrs), they'll eventually develop adequate social skills. Whereas me, I worked very hard to develop social skills and it took me a lot longer.


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23 Dec 2011, 11:39 am

Anyone here watch Supernanny? I watch those all the time and Autism or ADHD is never mentioned.


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23 Dec 2011, 10:50 pm

I missed out on all my formative years from the age of 14. It made it very difficult to understand anything about the mechanisms at play and the larger world around me. Looking back on it i would compare it to an animal in captivity and the complete lack that they invariably would exhibit if released in to the wild, as has happened.

I think my Aspie traits were low to mild but ended up being very severe because of the strangeness of my upbringing.



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24 Dec 2011, 5:39 am

i have a cousin from a very strict uncle who is very much socially deprived.. he almost seem to have AS in the sense he doesnt quickly know what, when, why and how to say things or answers to what is asked of him, it really takes time and repetition before he could respond. and he does not follow through conversations he doesnt know what to ask next or develop a good conversation.. and social rules also dont apply to him anymore like how to be with friends what people like and stuff. he live a very simple mind and world, his world and horizon is a lot limited than most and just stuck at watching tv whole day, he doesnt have initiative too or good decision making and assertion.. he doesnt read books or create and do stuffs on his own. he could watch a movie but he cant tell you about it.. he could be like AS socially but he didnt get the smarts of AS.. just quite extremely go with the flow kind of guy.. no sense of humor too and creativity. he knows to just do what is told of him but i could tell he wants to hang out with me sometimes but i dont know how to do that when he does not approach nor stay when he does..


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